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	<span class="style219"><a href="/2007book/weissinger07.htm">Preface- Dr. Roger<br>
	Weissinger-Baylon<br>
	Workshop Chairman<br>
	</a></span><span class="style219"><a href="/2007book/ranquet07.htm">Foreword - Ing General<br>
	Robert Ranquet<br>
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	<span class="style219"><a href="/2007book/joulwan07.htm">Opening Dinner Debate - <br>
	General George Joulwan<br>
	Former SACEUR<br>
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	Global security challenges:  <br>
        Is there hope for <br>
        Afghanistan or Iraq?<br>
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      <p align="center" class="style17"><a href="/2007book/bentegeat07.htm">General Henri Bentegeat<br>
        President of EU Military Committee</a>
	  <a href="/2007book/georgelin07">Gen Jean-Louis Georgelin C<strong>hef d&rsquo;&eacute;tat</strong>-<strong>major</strong> des arm&eacute;es - France</a><a href="/2007book/amecourt07.htm">Mr. Jean de Ponton d'Amecourt - French Dir of Strategic Affairs</a><a href="/2007book/schuwirth07.htm">General Rainer Schuwirth <br>
        Chief of Staff, SHAPE</a><a href="/2007book/ramms07.htm">General Egon Ramms <br>
      Commander, Allied Joint Force Cmd, Brunssum</a>
      <a href="/2007book/akram07.htm">
        Amb Munir Akram<br>
        Pakistan's Amb to UN</a><a href="/2007book/zhan07.htm">
        Major Gen ZHAN Maohai<br>
        Vice Chair of China IISS</a><br>
        Energy &amp; Climate Change<br>     
      
      <p align="center" class="style17"><a href="/2007book/jones07.htm">General James Jones<br>
        Former Supreme Allied Commander Europe</a><a href="/2007book/ashton07.htm">Mr. John Ashton<br>
        UK Special Repr for Climate Change</a><br>
        Security in the Balkans &amp; Black Sea region<br>
      
      <p align="center" class="style17"><a href="/2007book/baramidze07.htm">Georgian Vice Prime Minister Giorgi Baramidze</a>      
        <a href="/2007book/tarasyuk07.htm">Ukrainian Foreign Minister Borys Tarasyuk</a> 
      <a href="/2007book/mediu07.htm">Albanian Defense Minister Fatmir Mediu</a><a href="/2007book/bliznakov07.htm">Bulgarian Defense Minister Veselin Bliznakov</a><a href="/2007book/bezhuashvili07.htm">Georgian Foreign Min Gela Bezhuashvili</a><a href="/2007book/ildem07.htm">Ambassador <strong> Tacan Ildem</strong><br>
Turkish Amb to NATO</a><a href="/2007book/buzhinsky07.htm">
        Lt Gen Evgeniy Buzhinsky<br>
        Russian Ministry of Defense</a><br>
        Time for new strategies?<br>
        NATO after the Riga Summit<br>
      <p align="center" class="style17"><a href="/2007book/eldon07.htm">Amb Stewart Eldon<br>
        UK Ambassador to NATO</a>
        <a href="/2007book/orgaz07.htm">Amb Pablo Benavides Orgaz<br>
        Spanish Amb to NATO</a>
        <a href="/2007book/stefanini07.htm">Amb Stefano Stefanini <br>
        Italian Amb to NATO</a><a href="/2007book/dipaola07.htm">Adm Giampaolo Di Paola<br>
        Italian Chief of Defense<br>
        </a><a href="/2007book/gagor07.htm">Gen Franciszek Gagor Polish Chief of Defense</a><br>
        How can the EU, NATO, the OSCE, and UN reform?<br>      
      <p align="center" class="style17"><a href="/2007book/brichambaut07.htm">Amb Marc Perrin de Brichambaut<br>
        OSCE Secretary General </a><a href="/2007book/lintonen07.htm">Amb Kirsti Lintonen Finnish Amb to UN</a>
        <a href="/2007book/brodi07.htm">Amb Gabor Brodi<br>
        Hungarian Amb to UN</a><a href="/2007book/rinkevics07.htm">State Sec Edgars Rinkevics - Latvian MOD</a><a href="/2007book/linkevicius07.htm">Amb Linas Linkevicius<br>
        Lithuanian Amb to NATO<br>
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        <a href="/2007book/chizhov07.htm">Amb Vladimir Chizhov<br>
        Russian Amb to the EU<br>
        </a><a href="/2007book/monteforte07.htm">Vice Adm Ferdinando Sanfelice di Monteforte<br>
        Italian Mil Repr to NATO</a><br>
        Dealing with middle east:<br>Views from North Africa
      <p align="center" class="style17"><a href="/2007book/yousfi07.htm">Amb Youcef Yousfi<br>
        Algerian Amb to UN and former Foreign Minister</a><a href="/2007book/karem07.htm">Amb Mahmoud Karem<br>
      Egyptian Amb to EU and Repr to Med Dialogue</a><a href="/2007book/alem07.htm">Amb Menouar Alem<br>
        Moroccan Amb to EU and Repr to Med Dialogue<br>
        </a>
      
      <p align="center" class="style17">WMD and cyber threats
      <p align="center" class="style17"><a href="/2007book/pfirter07.htm">Amb Rogelio Pfirter<br>
        Director-General, OPCW</a>
        <a href="/2007book/hopkins07.htm">Dr. Arthur T. Hopkins<br>
        Assist to U.S. Sec of Defense -  Nuclear &amp; Chemical &amp; Biological</a><a href="/2007book/aaviksoo07.htm">Estonian Defense Minister<br>
        Jaak Aaviksoo</a><a href="/2007book/grimes07.htm">Hon John Grimes<br>
        US Assistant Secretary of Defense - NII<br>
        </a><a href="/2007book/lentz07.htm">Mr. Robert Lentz<br>
        US Dep Asst Sec for NII<br>
         </a><a href="/2007book/wolf07.htm">Lt General Ulrich Wolf<br>
         Dir of NATO CIS Service Agency<br>
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         <a href="/2007book/bloechl07.htm">Mr. Tim Bloechl<br>
        Microsoft Exec Director</a>      
      
      <p align="center" class="style17">How industry can help address the global challenges<p align="center" class="style17"><a href="/2007book/lahoud07.htm">Mr. Marwan Lahoud<br>
        Chief Operating Office EADS</a><a href="/2007book/schneider07.htm">Mr. Kent Schneider<br>
President, Defense Group<br>
Northrop Grumman IT<br>
</a><a href="/2007book/auroy07.htm">Mr. Patrick Auroy<br>
Deputy Director,<br>
French DGA
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</a><a href="/2007book/volkman07.htm">Mr. Alfred Volkman<br>
        Dir, Defense Cooperation<br>
        US Dept of Defense<br>
        </a>
        <a href="/2007book/linnenkamp07.htm">Dr. Hilmar Linnenkamp<br>
        Dep CEO, EDA</a>
        <a href="/2007book/lind07.htm">Mr. Jan-Olof Lind<br>
        Swedish National Armaments Director</a>
        <a href="/2007book/buckley07.htm">Dr. Edgar Buckley<br>
        Thales Senior Vice President</a>
        <a href="/2007book/trice07">Dr. Robert Trice<br>
        Lockheed Martin <br>
        Senior Vice President<br>   
        </a><a href="/2007book/bertolone07.htm">Ing. Giovanni Bertolone<br>
        CEO, Alenia Aeronautica</a>
      
      <p align="center" class="style17">The way ahead &amp; why current approaches don't work      
      
      <p align="center" class="style17"><a href="/2007book/martinusz07.htm">Amb Zoltan Martinusz<br>
        Hungarian Amb to NATO<br>
        </a><a href="/2007book/ducaru07.htm">Amb Dumitru Sorin Ducaru<br>
        Romanian Amb to NATO</a><a href="/2007book/kujat07.htm">        General Harald Kujat<br>
        Former Chair of NATO Military Committee</a>
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<p align="center" class="style26">EXPANDING  SECURITY CHALLENGES IN AFGHANISTAN, IRAK, AND THE MIDDLE EAST&mdash;AN OPERATIONAL  VIEW</p>
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          <p class="style26">General Rainer Schuwirth<br>
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<p align="center" class="style26"><em>&quot; ...we must provide
early crisis prevention in a better, more coherent way <br>
by assisting countries
in maintaining or achieving stability <br>
before the situation deteriorates into fights
and civil war.&quot;</em></p>
<p>In the previous
  few workshops participants had to endure presentations and go through question
  and answer periods with two generals who happened to come from Germany but were
  actually working in an international capacity. One was the Commander Joint
  Forces Command Brunssum, and the other one was me, at SHAPE. It has always been
  a pleasure to try to entertain you and we will try to do so again. Recently, I
  was joined on this panel by General Gerhard Back, and now by his successor, Egon
  Ramms, in office since the beginning of 2007. He will talk about Afghanistan
  and therefore I will refrain from providing comments on this operation. </p>
<p>����������� Those of you who attended this workshop in 2006 may remember that it was a workshop placed
in front of the Riga Summit. It created some expectations about the Riga
Summit, which have been accomplished, but we all live in the real world and
know that things do not develop easily.�  </p>

<p>����������� So,
what I would like to do today is to give you a bit of flavor concerning certain
areas that complement what Henri Bentegeat talked about: where we stand, and
the continuing challenges that remain. I will do this discussing what we call
established NATO priorities, namely, operations, cooperation, and,
transformation and capabilities. </p>

<p align="center" class="style26">OPERATIONS</p>

<p>����������� You all know and hear almost every day that operations remain NATO�s number one
priority. At the moment a few more than 50,000 soldiers are deployed on three
continents, but when you take into account that these soldiers have to be rotated
every four or six months depending on the national rotation rhythm, at any
given time you need a force package of between 200,000 and 300,000 soldiers.
This becomes more and more difficult for the nations and consequently becomes
more and more difficult for us, the force generators, to obtain the required
capabilities.�  </p>

<p>����������� At the same time, annual costs are increasing. Just to give you two figures, and I
am talking about the costs from the NATO budgets, in 2001 we spent 52 million
euros on operations, money of course provided by the nations. In 2007 it is
about 700 million. Again, this is almost peanuts compared to the sum of
national contributions, but it becomes an increasing burden for the common NATO
budgets because there is no willingness at all to increase them. If operation
costs go up, all other costs must go down.�  </p>

<p>����������� A third point is that, in principle, regardless of whether we talk about
Afghanistan, the Balkans, or Africa, it is clear that we have to do more in
order to develop indigenous capabilities. Developing national security
structures in Afghanistan for the police and the forces, and doing the same in
Africa and the Balkans, must be part of our success and exit strategy if we do
not want to stay there forever and if we do not want to develop a culture of
dependency or even perceived continuous occupation.  </p>

<p align="center" class="style26">BALKANS</p>

<p>����������� In the Balkans the military situation is stable but the political situation is
becoming more and more shaky, as understandably the Kosovars are waiting for
political solutions.� As you know, the recent G8 summit was unable to unlock
the difference of opinions concerning an independent Kosovo or the Ahtisaari
proposal. NATO remains ready to do so to maintain a safe and secure environment
and to support the implementation of the Ahtisaari proposal if so agreed.  </p>

<p>����������� The European Union is also prepared to field a follow-on mission to UNMIK in the
civilian-support area, including the police. But so far, even with all
excellent staff to staff coordination and cooperation between the two
organizations, the political side has been unable to decide that NATO could
officially cooperate with the European Union and that the two would give each
other mutual support. At the moment there is no chance for such a political
approval. </p>

<p>����������� In Bosnia, Albania, Serbia, Croatia, and the Former Yugoslav Republic of
Macedonia, with advice from NATO headquarters or from advisory teams, we
continue to assist in building indigenous capabilities and to help these
nations on their way to integrating into Euro-Atlantic structures. Under the
Berlin Plus framework, we continue to support the European Union and run the EU
operation in Bosnia from SHAPE with the embedded EU operation headquarters. �From
my point of view this is also the cheapest way for the European Union to have
its own command and control capability. </p>


<p align="center" class="style26">The Mediterranean and Operation Active Endeavor</p>

<p>Turning to the Mediterranean, Operation
Active Endeavor has kept this area free from terrorist use. It also has
an additional very positive dimension because it has facilitated the
development and deepening of contacts within the framework of the Mediterranean
Dialogue and with countries along the Black Sea coast. And it has assisted more
and more the understanding that threats do not only know any borders but use
ungoverned spaces. Operation Active Endeavor also has become a facilitator for
what I would call innovative transformational approaches: drawing on modern
information technology and sharing information regardless of whether it is with
a partner-nation or a member-nation of an organization. This kind of
cooperation based on technical systems�the technical expression is Maritime
Situation Awareness�has now extended well beyond the Mediterranean basin and
certainly contributes to maintaining our security against the risks and threats
from terrorists and other criminal groups. </p>


<p align="center" class="style26">Iraq and the NATO Training Mission (NTM-I</p>

<p>����������� The very modest NATO mission that is training Iraqi forces is now being expanded to
include gendarmerie training. This is an example, as is our modest support for
the African Union, how the development of indigenous forces can be supported
with a rather small investment. What we should learn from that is, from my
point of view, that rather than wait until fire breaks out we must provide
early crisis prevention in a better, more coherent way by assisting countries
in maintaining or achieving stability before the situation deteriorates into fights
and civil war. </p>

<p align="center" class="style26">The NATO Response Force</p>

<p>����������� We have talked several times during the workshops about the NATO Response Force,
and you heard at that it was declared fully operational at the Riga Summit.
This certainly was a political declaration. Although significant improvements in
meeting the requirements had been made, particularly through the efforts of Jim
Jones, they were not fully achieved. I expect that we will be tasked to
look into new methods for maintaining, sustaining, or modifying the NATO
Response Force. Undoubtedly, while it may put a big strain on our nations`
resources it must be fit for use as we know that the next crises is on the
horizon or even closer.  </p>

<p align="center" class="style26">TRANSFORMATION AND CAPABILITIES</p>

<p>����������� There is not much to report on progress in the area of capabilities. It all has to do
with money, with industrial benefit sharing, and, in certain cases, with
national egoism. We all know and have talked during the workshops about where
the shortfalls are, so I don�t have to repeat that. But much has remained the
same in that area, including, until to date, the inability of the NATO nations
to decide to adapt the current NATO Command Structure in order to make it more
deployable, which everyone knows is a requirement. </p>

<p>����������� On a positive note, between the 2006 and 2007 workshops a significant amount of
work was done and we have made some progress. But we cannot be satisfied yet,
as we are confronted more and more with complicated issues. Most of these
issues have to do either with principal political points, some of which
surfaced in earlier discussions, or with resources or national approaches
instead of multinational ones, be it on the side of NATO or on the side of the
European Union. No one can afford to develop capability for EU purposes only or
for NATO purposes only. We are also faced with political home fronts, as I call
it, that lead to restrictions on the usability of forces In NATO we call this caveats.
And as of yet we have not experienced a real breakthrough within the NATO
system for resource processes, which was already used during the Cold War but
which is not at all fit to support today�s crisis response operations. </p>

<p>���� Finally, people everywhere talk about the comprehensive approach�it is also part of a lot of
political papers and declarations. So far, however, the NATO nations have been
unable to agree on a definition. When you ask who is responsible for it, it is
difficult to find an answer. But I think we all share the understanding that we
need to properly coordinate and have proper cooperation between NATO, the EU,
the U.N., the OSCE, the African Union, between nations, and so on. And I think
we also need to improve our communication strategy. </p>

<p align="center" class="style26">CONCLUDING REMARKS</p>

<p>����������� Just a final wish: When all the participants of �this workshop go back to their
countries, after having listened to the variety of topics discussed here, I
hope they will participate in important discussions and activities and
contribute toward better� public understanding and awareness, including the
media.  </p>
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