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24th International Workshop - </strong><strong>Paris '07</strong></p>
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<span class="style219"><a href="/2007book/weissinger07.htm">Preface- Dr. Roger<br>
Weissinger-Baylon<br>
Workshop Chairman<br>
</a></span><span class="style219"><a href="/2007book/ranquet07.htm">Foreword - Ing General<br>
Robert Ranquet<br>
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<span class="style219"><a href="/2007book/joulwan07.htm">Opening Dinner Debate - <br>
General George Joulwan<br>
Former SACEUR<br>
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Global security challenges: <br>
Is there hope for <br>
Afghanistan or Iraq?<br>
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<p align="center" class="style17"><a href="/2007book/bentegeat07.htm">General Henri Bentegeat<br>
President of EU Military Committee</a>
<a href="/2007book/georgelin07">Gen Jean-Louis Georgelin C<strong>hef d’état</strong>-<strong>major</strong> des armées - France</a><a href="/2007book/amecourt07.htm">Mr. Jean de Ponton d'Amecourt - French Dir of Strategic Affairs</a><a href="/2007book/schuwirth07.htm">General Rainer Schuwirth <br>
Chief of Staff, SHAPE</a><a href="/2007book/ramms07.htm">General Egon Ramms <br>
Commander, Allied Joint Force Cmd, Brunssum</a>
<a href="/2007book/akram07.htm">
Amb Munir Akram<br>
Pakistan's Amb to UN</a><a href="/2007book/zhan07.htm">
Major Gen ZHAN Maohai<br>
Vice Chair of China IISS</a><br>
Energy & Climate Change<br>
<p align="center" class="style17"><a href="/2007book/jones07.htm">General James Jones<br>
Former Supreme Allied Commander Europe</a><a href="/2007book/ashton07.htm">Mr. John Ashton<br>
UK Special Repr for Climate Change</a><br>
Security in the Balkans & Black Sea region<br>
<p align="center" class="style17"><a href="/2007book/baramidze07.htm">Georgian Vice Prime Minister Giorgi Baramidze</a>
<a href="/2007book/tarasyuk07.htm">Ukrainian Foreign Minister Borys Tarasyuk</a>
<a href="/2007book/mediu07.htm">Albanian Defense Minister Fatmir Mediu</a><a href="/2007book/bliznakov07.htm">Bulgarian Defense Minister Veselin Bliznakov</a><a href="/2007book/bezhuashvili07.htm">Georgian Foreign Min Gela Bezhuashvili</a><a href="/2007book/ildem07.htm">Ambassador <strong> Tacan Ildem</strong><br>
Turkish Amb to NATO</a><a href="/2007book/buzhinsky07.htm">
Lt Gen Evgeniy Buzhinsky<br>
Russian Ministry of Defense</a><br>
Time for new strategies?<br>
NATO after the Riga Summit<br>
<p align="center" class="style17"><a href="/2007book/eldon07.htm">Amb Stewart Eldon<br>
UK Ambassador to NATO</a>
<a href="/2007book/orgaz07.htm">Amb Pablo Benavides Orgaz<br>
Spanish Amb to NATO</a>
<a href="/2007book/stefanini07.htm">Amb Stefano Stefanini <br>
Italian Amb to NATO</a><a href="/2007book/dipaola07.htm">Adm Giampaolo Di Paola<br>
Italian Chief of Defense<br>
</a><a href="/2007book/gagor07.htm">Gen Franciszek Gagor Polish Chief of Defense</a><br>
How can the EU, NATO, the OSCE, and UN reform?<br>
<p align="center" class="style17"><a href="/2007book/brichambaut07.htm">Amb Marc Perrin de Brichambaut<br>
OSCE Secretary General </a><a href="/2007book/lintonen07.htm">Amb Kirsti Lintonen Finnish Amb to UN</a>
<a href="/2007book/brodi07.htm">Amb Gabor Brodi<br>
Hungarian Amb to UN</a><a href="/2007book/rinkevics07.htm">State Sec Edgars Rinkevics - Latvian MOD</a><a href="/2007book/linkevicius07.htm">Amb Linas Linkevicius<br>
Lithuanian Amb to NATO<br>
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<a href="/2007book/chizhov07.htm">Amb Vladimir Chizhov<br>
Russian Amb to the EU<br>
</a><a href="/2007book/monteforte07.htm">Vice Adm Ferdinando Sanfelice di Monteforte<br>
Italian Mil Repr to NATO</a><br>
Dealing with middle east:<br>Views from North Africa
<p align="center" class="style17"><a href="/2007book/yousfi07.htm">Amb Youcef Yousfi<br>
Algerian Amb to UN and former Foreign Minister</a><a href="/2007book/karem07.htm">Amb Mahmoud Karem<br>
Egyptian Amb to EU and Repr to Med Dialogue</a><a href="/2007book/alem07.htm">Amb Menouar Alem<br>
Moroccan Amb to EU and Repr to Med Dialogue<br>
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<p align="center" class="style17">WMD and cyber threats
<p align="center" class="style17"><a href="/2007book/pfirter07.htm">Amb Rogelio Pfirter<br>
Director-General, OPCW</a>
<a href="/2007book/hopkins07.htm">Dr. Arthur T. Hopkins<br>
Assist to U.S. Sec of Defense - Nuclear & Chemical & Biological</a><a href="/2007book/aaviksoo07.htm">Estonian Defense Minister<br>
Jaak Aaviksoo</a><a href="/2007book/grimes07.htm">Hon John Grimes<br>
US Assistant Secretary of Defense - NII<br>
</a><a href="/2007book/lentz07.htm">Mr. Robert Lentz<br>
US Dep Asst Sec for NII<br>
</a><a href="/2007book/wolf07.htm">Lt General Ulrich Wolf<br>
Dir of NATO CIS Service Agency<br>
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<a href="/2007book/bloechl07.htm">Mr. Tim Bloechl<br>
Microsoft Exec Director</a>
<p align="center" class="style17">How industry can help address the global challenges<p align="center" class="style17"><a href="/2007book/lahoud07.htm">Mr. Marwan Lahoud<br>
Chief Operating Office EADS</a><a href="/2007book/schneider07.htm">Mr. Kent Schneider<br>
President, Defense Group<br>
Northrop Grumman IT<br>
</a><a href="/2007book/auroy07.htm">Mr. Patrick Auroy<br>
Deputy Director,<br>
French DGA
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</a><a href="/2007book/volkman07.htm">Mr. Alfred Volkman<br>
Dir, Defense Cooperation<br>
US Dept of Defense<br>
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<a href="/2007book/linnenkamp07.htm">Dr. Hilmar Linnenkamp<br>
Dep CEO, EDA</a>
<a href="/2007book/lind07.htm">Mr. Jan-Olof Lind<br>
Swedish National Armaments Director</a>
<a href="/2007book/buckley07.htm">Dr. Edgar Buckley<br>
Thales Senior Vice President</a>
<a href="/2007book/trice07">Dr. Robert Trice<br>
Lockheed Martin <br>
Senior Vice President<br>
</a><a href="/2007book/bertolone07.htm">Ing. Giovanni Bertolone<br>
CEO, Alenia Aeronautica</a>
<p align="center" class="style17">The way ahead & why current approaches don't work
<p align="center" class="style17"><a href="/2007book/martinusz07.htm">Amb Zoltan Martinusz<br>
Hungarian Amb to NATO<br>
</a><a href="/2007book/ducaru07.htm">Amb Dumitru Sorin Ducaru<br>
Romanian Amb to NATO</a><a href="/2007book/kujat07.htm"> General Harald Kujat<br>
Former Chair of NATO Military Committee</a>
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<p align="center" class=style26>The Relationship between
Governments and Defense Industries in a Global Industrial Base</p>
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Senior Vice President<br>
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<td align="left" valign="top"><p>Thales Senior VP Dr. Edgar Buckley (left), with Swedish National Armaments Dir Jan-Olof Lind, EDA Dep CEO Dr. Hilmar Linnenkamp, and U.S. Director of International Cooperation Alfred Volkman (left to right).</p>
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<p align="center" class="style26"><em>"If Europe intends to play a strong security role, it needs a strong European
defense industry supported <br>
by a strong defense technology base. And since the
U.S. needs Europe to contribute strongly to<br>
defense and security operations in
order to share the burden of maintaining
global
security
and <br>
stability, I
believe that the U.S. also needs and
should support a strong European DTIB."</em></p>
<p>My
company�s analysis of this subject has been consistent over a number of years:
defense companies need to maintain the closest possible, trusting relationship
with their government customers, respecting, of course, all relevant security
and ethical requirements. Such a relationship needs to exist in order to: </p>
<p> � Help customers develop their concepts and requirements, including through
experimentation</p>
<p> � Deliver the necessary capabilities</p>
<p> � Maintain their customers� sovereignty of action by constituting a modern and
competitive defense technology and industrial base</p>
<p>All modern procurement trends�CD&E, spiral development, capability-based
procurement, outsourced extended service contracts, public-private financing �
depend on this close customer-company relationship.� Neither customer nor
supplier can manage the process without it.</p>
<p align="center" class="style26">WHY GOVERNMENTS NEED INDUSTRY</p>
<p>Governments depend on strong and healthy defense industries for satisfying their security
needs and, in the case of major states, to maintain their long-term sovereignty
of action in defense and security affairs. There is no example I know of of a
nation that has a strong defense capability while lacking a strong defense
industry.</p>
<p>If Europe intends to play a strong security role, it needs a strong European
defense industry supported by a strong defense technology base. And since the
U.S. needs Europe to contribute strongly to defense and security operations in
order to share the burden of maintaining global security and stability, I
believe that the U.S. also needs and should support a strong European DTIB.�
Not all Americans may agree with that statement, but I am not saying that the
European DTIB needs to fully duplicate all areas of America�s defense
technology capability. I believe that Europe should maintain strong
capabilities in key areas.� </p>
<p align="center" class="style26">HOW TO IMPROVE THE EUROPEAN DEFENCE TECHNOLOGICAL AND INDUSTRIAL BASE (DTIB)</p>
<p>What does improving the European DTIB entail? Fortunately we know the answer: it entails supporting the EDA in its
efforts to increase and coordinate R&T spending, harmonizing capability
requirements, consolidating the defense industrial base, and establishing a
competitive European defense equipment market. Action in all of these areas is
already underway through the EDA and with the support of governments and the
European Commission. Action is also underway to explore the ability to pool
efforts among nations in parallel with increased cooperation at the European
level. There is every reason to believe that pooling among countries with
similar capabilities is the best way to consolidate capabilities in Europe in
the shorter term. </p>
<p>So, we have made a start.� But there is one other thing we need to do to secure the
future of the European DTIB: we need to improve transatlantic defense
industrial cooperation. We need to do this in the interests of both Europe and
the United States.� </p>
<p align="center" class="style26">THE EFFECTS OF REGULATION ON INDUSTRY</p>
<p>What stands in the way of improved
transatlantic cooperation? The answer is clear: export licensing and technology
transfer regulations. I recently discussed these subjects with Al Volkman and
his staff in Washington as part of a NIAG team that was asked to report on how
things could be improved on both sides of the Atlantic.</p>
<p>Our
team found that several efforts are being made in the U.S. to improve the U.S.
regulatory process, which is currently creaking under the weight of industry�s
needs to cooperate and exchange technology. Yet there is no immediate prospect
of fundamental change. The situation in Europe is not much better, with a
thoroughly useless and bureaucratic system of licensing for intra-European
Union transfers that is resistant to attempts to reform it.���������� </p>
<p>Industry
is not to blame for this state of affairs; we have put forward ideas for change
and we are ready to internalize and respect all government security and export
restrictions. This is a case in which governments and legislatures must improve
their performance, and there is every reason to do so because the same industry
is increasingly present on both sides of the Atlantic. There is also growing
interdependence between the European and the American defense industries. </p>
<p align="center" class="style26">HOW TO EFFECT EUROPEAN AND U.S. CHANGE</p>
<p>So what do governments and legislatures need to do to make it happen?</p>
<p>First, it would be extremely helpful if governments collectively recognized the need
for strong DTIBs on both sides of the Atlantic.� I don�t really imagine that
anyone doubts the need for a strong U.S. DTIB but, as I said earlier, I am not
sure the same goes for the European DTIB. Do Americans accept the need for a
strong European DTIB? They should�but if they do accept it they should surely
give it a higher priority and put more effort into facilitating transatlantic
technology transfer. </p>
<p>Second, governments need to recognize that the nature of defense industries has
changed. We are multinational now and need to be treated as such. We want to be
treated equally depending on our presence in different countries and we want to
be good citizens in each, and be treated accordingly. The U.K. government has
set the standard for the treatment of foreign-owned defense companies, and we
hope others will follow its example.</p>
<p align="center" class="style26">CONCLUDING REMARKS</p>
<p>To sum up here, I�d like to reiterate my points:</p>
<p> � Governments and defense industries need
to work increasingly closer together.</p>
<p> � We need strong DTIBs in both the U.S. and Europe. A single globalized industrial
base controlled by the U.S. Congress will not work.</p>
<p> � In Europe we need to push ahead strongly with market convergence and pool our
capabilities as much as possible in order to improve efficiency and maintain
key technological capabilities</p>
<p>Finally, we need to explain clearly to our American friends that all this does not make a
Fortress Europe and take steps together to free up the regulatory processes and support our technology bases on both sides of the Atlantic.</p>
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