KGRKJGETMRETU895U-589TY5MIGM5JGB5SDFESFREWTGR54TY
Server : Apache/2.4.62
System : FreeBSD fbsdweb2.web.rcn.net 14.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 14.1-RELEASE releng/14.1-n267679-10e31f0946d8 GENERIC amd64
User : www ( 80)
PHP Version : 8.3.8
Disable Function : NONE
Directory :  /domains/roger.dnai/2005book/

Upload File :
current_dir [ Writeable ] document_root [ Writeable ]

 

Current File : /domains/roger.dnai/2005book/george.htm
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/loose.dtd">
<html><!-- InstanceBegin template="/Templates/2005_book.dwt" codeOutsideHTMLIsLocked="false" -->
<!-- DW6 -->
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1">
<!-- InstanceBeginEditable name="doctitle" -->
<title>Center for Strategic Decision Research, Peter Struck, Michele Alliot-Marie, General George Joulwan, SACEUR, General James L. Jones, SHAPE, NATO, EU, BDLI, ILA, EADS, Northrop Grumman, Under Secretary Michael Wynne, Assistant Secretary Linton Wells, Ambassador William Burns, NATO Military Committee Chairman General Harald Kujat, General Dynamics, Boeing, Global Security Terrorism, Iraq, Afghanistan, Rainer Hertrich, David Stafford</title>
<!-- InstanceEndEditable --><link rel="stylesheet" href="../2002Book/emx_nav_right.css" type="text/css">
<style type="text/css">
<!--
.style5 {font-weight: bold;
	color: #000000;
	font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;
	font-size: large;
}
.style7 {font-size: 2px}
.style8 {font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif}
.style17 {
	font-size: x-small;
	font-weight: bold;
}
.style18 {font-size: x-small}
.style217 {font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif}
.style219 {font-style: normal; font-weight: normal; font-family: Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; }
.style19 {font-size: 11px}
.style20 {
	color: #006699;
	font-size: large;
}
.style21 {font-size: small}
.style22 {font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: small; }
-->
</style>
<!-- InstanceBeginEditable name="head" -->
<style type="text/css">
<!--
.style27 {
	font-size: small;
	font-weight: bold;
	color: #006699;
}
.style29 {
	color: #006699;
	font-weight: bold;
	font-size: medium;
}
.style30 {
	font-size: medium;
	color: #006699;
}
.style31 {
	font-size: large;
	font-weight: bold;
	color: #006699;
}
-->
</style>
<!-- InstanceEndEditable -->
</head>
<body> 
<div class="skipLinks">skip to: <a href="#content">page content</a> | <a href="../2002Book/pageNav">links on this page</a> | <a href="#globalNav">site navigation</a> | <a href="#siteInfo">footer (site information)</a> </div>
<div id="masthead"> 
  <h1 align="center" id="siteName"><strong>Center for Strategic Decision Research</strong></h1> 
  <div id="globalNav">    <div id="globalLink"> 
      <a href="../index.html" id="gl1" class="glink"><span class="style18"><span class="style19">Home</span></span></a><a href="alliotmarie.htm" id="gl2" class="glink"><span class="style18"><span class="style19">Paris '05</span></span></a><a href="../2004book/PeterStruckKeynote.htm" id="gl2" class="glink"><span class="style18"><span class="style19">Berlin '04</span></span></a><a href="../moscow03/weissingerbaylon.htm" id="gl3" class="glink"><span class="style18"><span class="style19">Moscow '03</span></span></a><a href="../berlin02/scharping.htm" id="gl4" class="glink"><span class="style18"><span class="style19">Berlin '02</span></span></a><a href="../2001Book/workshop2001.htm" id="gl5" class="glink"><span class="style18"><span class="style19">Helsingor '01</span></span></a><a href="../2000Book/workshop2000.htm" id="gl6" class="glink"><span class="style18"><span class="style19">Berlin '00</span></span></a><a href="../99Book/workshop1999.htm" id="gl6" class="glink"><span class="style18"><span class="style19">Budapest '99</span></span></a><a href="../98Book/workshop98.htm" id="gl6" class="glink"><span class="style18"><span class="style19">Vienna '98</span></span></a><a href="../97Book/workshop97.htm" id="gl6" class="glink"><span class="style18"><span class="style19">Prague '97</span></span></a><a href="../96Book/Workshop96.htm" id="gl6" class="glink"><span class="style18"><span class="style19">Warsaw '96</span></span></a><a href="../95Book/95Workshop.htm" id="gl7" class="glink"><span class="style18"><span class="style19">Dresden '95</span></span></a> 
    </div> 
    <!--end globalLinks--> 
  </div> 
  <!-- end globalNav --> 
  
 

</div> 
<!-- end masthead --> 
<div id="pagecell1"> 
  <!--pagecell1--> 
  <div id="breadCrumb"><br>
    <table width="614" border="0" align="center">
      <tr>
        <td width="66" height="68"><p><img src="../2004book/logo-kevin-web.jpg" width="60" height="66"></p>        </td>
        <td width="538"><div align="center"><span class="style5">22nd International Workshop on Global Security<br>
<em>Chantilly/Paris, 10-12 June 2005 </em><br>
        </span></div></td>
      </tr>
    </table>
  </div> 
  <div class="style7" id="pageName">    P</div> 
  <div id="pageNav">  
    <div id="sectionLinks">
      <p align="center" class="style17"><strong>Table of Contents</strong></p>
      <p align="left" class="style17"><span class="style18"><span class="style219"> </span><span class="style219"><a href="preface.htm">Preface</a></span></span></p>
      <p align="center" class="style17">Part 1 </p>
      <p align="left" class="style17"><a href="alliotmarie.htm">French Defense Minister Michele Alliot-Marie (English version) </a><span class="style217"><strong></strong></span><span class="style217"><strong><a href="alliotmarie-french.htm">French Defense Minister Michele Alliot-Marie (French version) </a><a href="reid.htm">UK Defense Minister John Reid</a></strong></span><span class="style217"><strong><a href="graham.htm">Canadian Defense Minister Bill Graham </a></strong></span><span class="style219"><a href="weissingerbaylon.htm">Workshop Chairman Dr. Roger Weissinger-Baylon </a></span><span class="style219"> </span><span class="style219"><a href="liska.htm">Slovak Defense Minister Juraj Liska </a></span><span class="style219"><a href="erjavec.htm">Slovenian Defense Minister Karl Erjavec </a></span><span class="style219"> </span><span class="style219"><a href="svinarov.htm">Bulgarian Defense Minister Nikolay Svinarov </a></span><span class="style219"><a href="kujat.htm">NATO Military Committee Chair Gen Harald Kujat </a></span><span class="style219"> </span><span class="style219"><a href="koenig.htm">Acting US Ambassador to NATO John Koenig </a></span><span class="style219"><a href="schuwirth.htm">SHAPE Chief of Staff Gen Rainer Schuwirth </a></span><span class="style219"> </span><span class="style219"><a href="back.htm">Allied Joint Force Command Brunssum Cmdr Gen Gerhard Back </a></span></p>
      <p align="center" class="style17">Part 2 </p>
      <p align="left" class="style17"><span class="style219"><a href="perrindebrichambaut.htm">French MOD Dir for Strat Affairs Amb Marc Perrin de Brichambaut </a></span><span class="style219"> </span><span class="style219"><a href="dipaola.htm">Italian Chief of Defense Adm Giampaolo Di Paola </a></span><span class="style219"><a href="naumann.htm">fmr German Chief of Defense Gen  Klaus Naumann </a></span><span class="style219"> </span><span class="style219"><a href="perruche.htm">EU Military Staff Director Gen Jean-Paul Perruche </a></span><span class="style219"><a href="klein.htm">US Assist to Secretary of Defense Dale Klein </a></span><span class="style219"> </span><span class="style219"><a href="gergorin.htm">EADS Exec Vice President Jean-Louis Gergorin </a></span><span class="style219"><a href="george.htm">UK Parliament Member Bruce George </a></span><span class="style219"> </span><span class="style219"><a href="ranque.htm">Thales Chairman &amp; CEO Denis Ranque</a></span><span class="style219"><a href="tarasyuk.htm">Ukranian Foreign Minister Borys Tarasyuk </a></span><span class="style219"> </span><span class="style219"><a href="fasslabend.htm">Austrian Natl Assembly Member Minister Werner Fasslabend</a></span><span class="style219"><a href="pickering.htm">Boeing Sr Vice President Amb Thomas Pickering</a></span><a href="rooseveltinstitution.htm">Roosevelt Institution </a></p>
      <p align="center" class="style17">Part 3 </p>
      <p align="left" class="style17"><span class="style219"> </span><span class="style219"><a href="auroy.htm">French MOD DGA Force Systems &amp; Cooperation Director Patrick Auroy </a></span><span class="style219"><a href="lind.htm">Swedish Natl Armaments Director Jan-Olof Lind </a></span><span class="style219"> </span><span class="style219"><a href="weise.htm">German Armaments Dir Hans-Heinrich Weise </a></span><span class="style219"><a href="volkman.htm">US Under Secretary of Defense Office Intl Coop Director Alfred Volkman </a></span><span class="style219"> </span><span class="style219"><a href="stanhope.htm">Dep Supreme Allied Cmdr Transformation Admiral Sir Mark Stanhope </a></span><span class="style219"><a href="lahoud.htm">MBDA President &amp; CEO Marwan Lahoud </a></span><span class="style219"> </span><span class="style219"><a href="courtot.htm">SAFRAN Sr Vice President Francois Courtot </a></span><span class="style219"><a href="bertolone.htm">Alenia Aeronautica CEO Giovanni Bertolone </a></span><span class="style219"> </span><span class="style219"><a href="harris.htm">Lockheed Martin President Scott Harris </a></span><span class="style219"><a href="schneider.htm">Northrop Grumman President Kent Schneider </a></span><span class="style219"> </span><span class="style219"><a href="wells.htm">US Assist Secretary of Defense Linton Wells </a></span><span class="style219"><a href="vice.htm">Northrop Grumman Vice President Thomas Vice</a></span></p>
      <p align="center" class="style17">Part 4 </p>
      <p align="left" class="style17"><span class="style219"> </span><span class="style219"><a href="novotny.htm">Czech Ambassador to India Jaromir Novotny </a></span><span class="style219"><a href="rinkevics.htm">Latvian MOD State Secretary Edgars Rinkevics</a></span><span class="style219"><a href="plangu.htm">Romanian MOD State Secretary for Policy Ion Mircea Plangu </a></span><span class="style219"> </span><span class="style219"><a href="kouts.htm">Estonian Defense Forces Cmdr Adm Tarmo Kouts </a></span><br>
        <br>
      </p>
    </div>
  </div> 
  <div id="content">
    <div class="story"><!-- InstanceBeginEditable name="EditRegion1" --><br>
     <!-- Start of StatCounter Code -->
<script type="text/javascript">
var sc_project=3086157; 
var sc_invisible=0; 
var sc_partition=27; 
var sc_security="33bf0688"; 
</script>

<script type="text/javascript" src="http://www.statcounter.com/counter/counter_xhtml.js"></script><noscript><div class="statcounter"><a class="statcounter" href="http://www.statcounter.com/"><img class="statcounter" src="http://c28.statcounter.com/3086157/0/33bf0688/0/" alt="free website hit counter" /></a></div></noscript>
<!-- End of StatCounter Code -->
      <div class="story">
        <h1 align="center" class="style31">Challenges Ahead: Capabilities, Finances,  Intelligence, and Working with International Organizations<br>
          <br>
        </h1>
        <div align="center">
          <table width="0" border="0">
            <tr>
              <td width="79"> <em><img width="76" height="97" src="george_clip_image002.jpg"></em> </td>
              <td width="1">&nbsp;</td>
              <td width="334"><div align="center"><span class="style30">The Rt Hon Bruce George<br>
  Chair of the Defence Committee, <br>
  House of Commons of the United Kingdom</span></div></td>
            </tr>
                  </table>
        </div>
        <div align="center"></div>
        <p align="center" class="style29">OPENING REMARKS</p>
        <p align="left"><span class="style21">I am going to talk a little bit about  equipment, and transformation and increasing and improving capabilities,  because this is critically important to the future security of Europe, North America, and much of the world. Because of my  experience in the OSCE, I also want to talk about where capabilities can be  enhanced through non-military means. I want to speak about this perspective,  not because I belong to the peace movement, quite the reverse, but because  within the tool box of the international community there is a whole range of  tools that are unused or barely used or badly used. And if we can enhance the  capabilities of international organizations that are either engaged or will  potentially be engaged in the range of conflict prevention or conflict  reconstruction, then it will not make defense manufacturers&rsquo; lives miserable  because there will still be the need to prepare for the worst kinds of war. No  one knows what is going to be on the horizon 10 or 15 years from now, but we  can&rsquo;t wallow in self-pity and worry just about terrorism. I do not wish to  appear overly pessimistic, but I do feel that we, as a set of institutions and  nations, should not judge all organizations because of our misperceptions or  because of the inefficiencies of the United Nations, which we hope is  improving.&nbsp; </span></p>
        <p align="left"><span class="style21">I speak as a  Parliamentarian and, while I know that Americans used to say that nobody is  safe while the legislature is in session, it is members of Parliament who  legitimize decisions of the executive, who scrutinize decisions of the  executive. As Chairman of the Defense Committee for two terms of Parliament, I  have had a delightful adversarial but constructive relationship with the  British Ministry of Defense. And as one former Permanent Secretary said, the  better you are as a committee, the better we have to be. So Parliamentarians do  have input, but I hope never a central role in decision-making, because that  would be worse than the present system. I sometimes muse over the United States  and say that there is only one thing worse than Parliament with too little  power on defense and that is a legislature with too much power on defense. My  country falls much more into the rather weak legislature side of the  equation.&nbsp; </span></p>
        <p align="center"><span class="style29">ENHANCING CAPABILITIES</span></p>
        <p align="left"><span class="style21">When John Reid was  appointed Defense Minister, I cannot tell you how elated I was, because he  knows and likes the subject and he empathizes with military personnel. Maybe  one day I will be able to understand what he is actually saying, but he  probably thinks my Welsh accent is as difficult to comprehend as his Scottish  accent! But since I have been a member of Parliament and on the Defense  Committee, I have been able to look at how the British decision-making  structure evolved, from the 1890s onward, and how it is an endless revolution  of reappraising its strategy, its tactics, its selection of personnel, and its  training of personnel. No one is ever secure with a structure that is going to  last for more than a few years because along comes another government, another  set of people seeking to improve, and that has happened in the sphere of  defense procurement. My committee produced a long list of defense initiatives  culminating, as we thought, in smart procurement and changes in smart  acquisition. But it has produced the same unfortunate consequences of military  equipment that arrives late, is much over budget, and in some cases does not  work as well as the Ministry of Defense or those who supplied the equipment  forecast. Now whether that is the result of the process of procurement or those  who are actually procuring is a matter of debate. And when my committee  produced the report on procurement, the then minister, a very amiable guy, got  very angry, particularly with one word&mdash;I appeared to have said the procurement  process was &ldquo;woeful.&rdquo; I publicly apologized and said the reason the word  &ldquo;woeful&rdquo; appeared was because the clerk of the committee could not understand  my handwriting&mdash;I had actually written the word &ldquo;wonderful.&rdquo; I am afraid Lord  Bach, who is no longer Minister for Procurement, has gone to other areas of  work.&nbsp; </span></p>
        <p align="left"><span class="style21">So the government, in the  eight years since the Labor government was in office, produced a strategic  defense review with a major step forward, then said there was not much threat  to the homeland, and then said we have to concentrate on expeditionary warfare.  Then along came September 11, Afghanistan, Sierra Leone, and Iraq, and the  government decided that though the SDR was only four or five years old, it was  out of date and we needed to rethink how we should utilize our forces in the  future as well as the equipment we put in their hands. So the Defense Committee  came out with a large, generally constructively critical report.&nbsp; </span></p>
        <p align="left"><span class="style21">But in this most recent  document&mdash;only the British would call it a &ldquo;White Paper,&rdquo; but any country that  invented cricket and rugby can be excused for calling it that&mdash;we said, though I  once said that we are a major power of the second rank, that it is up to us to  prove that we are capable of defending ourselves and capable of contributing  positively to the alliances that we belong to, be it the Atlantic Alliance or  the European Union. As a relatively wealthy country, hopefully shored up by the  vast amount of money the European Union gives us because we don&rsquo;t have peasant  farmers, we have to show that we are up with the best, up with the United  States. &nbsp; </span></p>
        <p align="center"><span class="style29">FOCUSING ON CAPABILITIES THAT INFLUENCE A POSITIVE OUTCOME</span></p>
        <p align="left"><span class="style21">In the traditional military  of earlier times, you used to give the infantry man a rifle and give him a few  months training. That world has changed. Now, as the report said, we need to  optimize our force structure to support free, concurrent small and medium-size  operations, but still exploit the benefits of network-enabled capability. We  also made the assumption&mdash;the French won&rsquo;t like this&mdash;that the most complex,  large-scale operations will be conducted only as part of a U.S-led coalition.  British policy, our primary goal, is to maximize our ability to influence at  all levels: The planning, execution, and management of the operation and its  aftermath in support of our wider security policy objectives. Our large-scale  force structure, therefore, focuses on those capabilities that add real weight  to the campaign and enhance the U.K.&rsquo;s  ability to influence the outcome. It then goes through the initial important  capabilities that the British will be quite good at and assist with: Initial  theater entry; shaping operations, intelligence surveillance, and  reconnaissance; precision attack on strategic targets; joint land and air  offensive operations; and post-conflict stabilization. It also details what we  have in the way of troops, the best available for these tasks: Special forces,  amphibious and carrier-strike task groups, an air expeditionary task force, and  a land-maneuver division capable of conducting offensive operations. The report  then addresses network-enabled capability and looks at the programs we are  engaged in for the army, air force, and navy.&nbsp; </span></p>
        <p align="center"><span class="style29">FINANCES AND EQUIPMENT AVAILABILITY</span></p>
        <p align="left"><span class="style21">While our committee did not  produce the report, we were generally supportive and said that we accepted much  of its analysis. However, we have been and continue to be concerned that its  vision of the future is too narrowly confined by the expectation and the  experience of recent years. We are also rather worried about whether we are  going to be able to do all that we wish within the finances available, even  with an increase in our defense budget. Not that I said this during the British  elections, because there was no interest in defense in general, only in Iraq. But when  you look at the Carrier program, if we are lucky we will have Type 45  destroyers in 2009, the Astute Submarine in 2009, the FRES, Typhoon, and Joint  Strike Fighter in 2014, and new helicopter capabilities in we do not know when.  So though we agree with the objectives, we are worried about the ability to pay  for it all and when the equipment will be available to us. A lot of systems are  being terminated too early, which could result in a quite substantial gap  opening between when ships are pensioned off and when the new equipment will be  made available to us. These are our criticisms.&nbsp; </span></p>
        <p align="center"><span class="style29">THE NEED FOR BETTER INTELLIGENCE</span></p>
        <p align="left"><span class="style21">However, we do not think  that strong membership in the European Union and strong commitment to the  Atlantic Alliance are in any way incompatible. I think we ought to be more  concerned about the bread-and-butter issues. The British Ministry of Defense  produced a very good report on the doctrine for peace-support operations, but  we don&rsquo;t want anyone to know that we actually read it. While we very much  supported and still do support the coalition war in Iraq&mdash;the war itself was brilliant&mdash;what  happened later was bloody awful and we should have had far better intelligence.  Luckily the British were engaged in a nicer part of the country and the Iraqis  did not hate us and don&rsquo;t try to kill us too frequently. The British, generally  speaking, are quite good at dealing with insurgents, as you Americans will  remember.&nbsp; </span></p>
        <p align="left"><span class="style21">The Americans were pretty  damn good and efficient at fighting a war that was incredibly quick. But the  moment the war ended, it was clear that no planning had been done, which we  were told had been done. Maybe the war ended too quickly, but what happened in  the weeks following it was catastrophic and we are now living with the  consequences. One of the endless number of reports we produce in Iraq was a  critical assessment of post-conflict operations, looking at what we ought to  have done, what we ought to be doing, and why we should spend more time looking  at things we are not very good at: Peace support operations, conflict  prevention, peace making, peace enforcement, peace building.&nbsp; </span></p>
        <p align="center"><span class="style29">WORKING WITH INTERNATIONAL  ORGANIZATIONS</span></p>
        <p align="left"><span class="style21">But while we are not so  good at those missions, there are other organizations that are quite good at  them. While I am not going to say who is blocking much of what is happening in  NATO, (after all, I am in France and would not want to embarrass our host by so  saying), the OSCE has an enormous peacekeeping capability, one that is very  good at doing everything other than fighting a war. The OSCE is now involved in  many peacekeeping missions abroad, for example, election observation. So I  would urge those people who are superb at producing equipment for war to spend  a great deal of time trying to assist institutions and governments to deal with  terrorism. Hopefully they will provide better equipment and better training for  those personnel who are engaged in peacekeeping-type activities, because the  equipment you use for warfighting and the equipment you use for peacekeeping is  very different.&nbsp; </span></p>
        <p align="center"><span class="style29">CONCLUDING REMARKS</span></p>
        <p align="left"><span class="style21">Although the Alliance and the European  Union appear to be at loggerheads, there is far more that unites us than  divides us. And while there is a threat from terrorism, I think we are just  about getting on top of it; our intelligence service produced a document for  the business community that said the threat from terrorism is lower than we had  initially forecast. The enormous international effort, with all its  imperfections, is getting strong and NATO is playing an incredible role. The  German contribution is also worldwide and enormous, and even the European Union  is doing something on defense and security now. So it shows you that things are  really on the move.&nbsp; </span></p>
        <h1 align="left" class="style27">&nbsp;</h1>
        <p align="left" class="style21">&nbsp;</p>
        <h1 align="left" class="style196 style20 style21">&nbsp;</h1>
      </div>
	  <!-- OPENTRACKER HTML START -->
<script defer src="http://server1.opentracker.net/?site=www.csdr.org"></script><noscript><a href="http://www.opentracker.net" target="_blank"><img src="http://img.opentracker.net/?cmd=nojs&site=www.csdr.org" alt="clickstream tracking" border="0"></a> </noscript>
<!-- OPENTRACKER HTML END -->
    <!-- InstanceEndEditable --></div> 
    <div class="story">
      <table width="100%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" summary=""> 
        <tr valign="top"> 
          <td class="storyLeft"> <p>&nbsp; 
            </p></td> 
        </tr> 
      </table> 
    </div> 
  </div> 
  <!--end content --> 
  <div class="style8" id="siteInfo">    <a href="#">Top of page </a> | <a href="../index.html">Home</a> | &copy;2003
    Center for Strategic Decision Research</div> 
</div> 
<!--end pagecell1--> 
<br> 
</body>
<!-- InstanceEnd --></html>

Anon7 - 2021