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<h1><!--mstheme--><font face="Times New Roman, Times New Roman, Times" color="#3399FF">What does Nostradamus have to say about music?<!--mstheme--></font></h1>
<p><a href="#hispanics_and_rock">Hispanics and Rock 'n' Roll</a><br>
<a href="#american_music">American Music</a><br>
<a href="#modern_classical">Modern Classical Music</a></p>
<h2><!--mstheme--><font face="Times New Roman, Times New Roman, Times" color="#3399FF"><a name="hispanics_and_rock"></a>Hispanics and Rock 'n' Roll<!--mstheme--></font></h2>
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The Hispanic contribution to good old-fashioned rock 'n' roll is widely
underestimated. Witness the following
<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%">
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Domingo Samudio wrote and sang lead on "Wooly Bully.<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Rudy Martinez wrote and sang lead on "96 Tears."<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Frankie Garcia sang lead on the hit version of "Land of 1000
Dances."<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
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Of course, now that I have figured all this out, I find that Rhino Records
has released a three-CD set called "Brown Eyed Soul: The Sound of East L.A." You should also
see <a href="http://www.tsimon.com/rockroll.htm">Tom Simon's page</a> for more information
on old rockers.
<p>9/13/99 Jay Korman writes: You have missed some very obvious crossovers,
to wit: "Watermelon Man" Mongo Santamaria, Beep Beep AHHH Joe
Cuba, El Chico (I don�t know - it was the one that had the blabbering in
Spanish). Stuff by Santana does not count. The Blues Magoos had a hit with
"I�ll never go back to Georgia" (I think it was Tito Puente who
did the original)
<p>1/10/2000 Deven Black: To augment what Jay wrote, you also forgot the
classic "Say Leroy, Your Mama, She Calling You Man" which had a
distinctively latin beat if not actual Spanish lyrics. And who could forget
all those bossa nova records of the 50s: "Mama Loves Mambo"
is used in a current TV ad, and I cherish my copy of "Lena Goes
Latin."
<p>3/8/04 Nos: There's also Danny Flores (Chuck Rio), composer of Tequia and
member of the Champs; and Ritchie Valenzuela who brought us La Bamba.
<p>10/6/04 Nos: And Jimmy Torres, lead guitarist of the String-A-Longs and
composer of their hit instrumental, "Wheels." Actually, Jimmy was
born in Texas of Kickapoo, Choctaw, Spanish, German, Mayan, and Irish
heritage.
<p>2/14/05 Nos: And Chris Montez (Christopher Montanez) of "Let's Dance" fame.
<h2><!--mstheme--><font face="Times New Roman, Times New Roman, Times" color="#3399FF"><a name="american_music"></a>American Music<!--mstheme--></font></h2>
<h3><!--mstheme--><font face="Times New Roman, Times New Roman, Times" color="#3399FF">Nos asks 1/9/2000:<!--mstheme--></font></h3>
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<p>I�ve been thinking - If one were to put out a CD of "American
Music," what should be on it?</font> <font FACE="GillSans">My thoughts so
far:</p>
<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%">
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Maple Leaf Rag - Joplin<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">West Side Story - Bernstein<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Heartbreak Hotel - Presley<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">My Way - Sinatra<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">A blues<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Something by Hank Williams<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
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<p>I invite your thoughts.</p>
<h3><!--mstheme--><font face="Times New Roman, Times New Roman, Times" color="#3399FF">Nos adds:<!--mstheme--></font></h3>
<p>I think we need to add Eddie Cantor and Duke Ellington. And make the Presley
song "Hound Dog."</p>
<h3><!--mstheme--><font face="Times New Roman, Times New Roman, Times" color="#3399FF">Deven says 1/10/2000:<!--mstheme--></font></h3>
<p>Last year for Chanukah Jill got me the multi-cd set of the Smithsonian
collection of American music collected as part of the WPA or some other
depression-era program. I haven�t listened to it all yet (it is HUGE) but I�d
nominate almost everything on it.</p>
<p>I also think you would have to put some Woody Guthrie, Pete Seeger, Bob
Dylan, and Aaron Copeland on it for sure. And that is just taking the cream off
the top.</p>
<h3><!--mstheme--><font face="Times New Roman, Times New Roman, Times" color="#3399FF">Bill Wollheim contributes 1/10/2000:<!--mstheme--></font></h3>
<p>Popular only or also classical?</p>
<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%">
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Aaron Copeland: Appalachian Spring, Rodeo, or Billy the Kid<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">something by
Irving Berlin <!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica"> Bluegrass (Bill Monroe?)<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Prof. Longhair, Fats Domino, or some other New Orleans music<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Everley Brothers<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Doo-Wop<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Gospel<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Bob Dylan<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Louis Armstrong<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
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<h3><!--mstheme--><font face="Times New Roman, Times New Roman, Times" color="#3399FF">Nos answers:<!--mstheme--></font></h3>
<p>Nothing wrong with classical. And I see we already have two votes for
Copeland. The question is whether there will be room. For this exercise, we only
get about 70 minutes to survey all of American music. I also see two votes for
Bob Dylan, but I think he gets beaten out by Woodie Guthrie's "This Land is
Your Land." As I heard it, Guthrie's song began as a bitter reproach to
establishment American politics and was transformed by popular demand (i.e., the
folk process) into a sentimental patriotic song. Nothing could be more American.
<h3><!--mstheme--><font face="Times New Roman, Times New Roman, Times" color="#3399FF">Bill Wollheim:<!--mstheme--></font></h3>
<p>. . . not to mention Billie Holiday
<h3><!--mstheme--><font face="Times New Roman, Times New Roman, Times" color="#3399FF">Wendy Wolf:<!--mstheme--></font></h3>
<p>Definitely Copeland �Appalachian Spring, maybe? � and the Gershwins.
<h3><!--mstheme--><font face="Times New Roman, Times New Roman, Times" color="#3399FF">Jay Korman:<!--mstheme--></font></h3>
<p>an immediate thought - delete "my way" - he didn�t write it and
it is not one of his best numbers</p>
<h3><!--mstheme--><font face="Times New Roman, Times New Roman, Times" color="#3399FF">Bill later added:<!--mstheme--></font></h3>
<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%">
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">George M. Cohan<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Yankee Doodle [good example of the American spirit: taking a British taunt
and turning it into a patriotic song --Nos]<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">After the Ball is Over -- or other Victorian song<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Louis Armstrong for Jazz [Bill thinks that Armstrong might even displace
Ellington on this list because of Armstrong's contribution to the birth of
Jazz]<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Sousa -- Stars and Stripes Forever<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
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<h3><!--mstheme--><font face="Times New Roman, Times New Roman, Times" color="#3399FF">Nos replies:<!--mstheme--></font></h3>
<p>Bill and I talked about whether to include a sample of Native American music.
Tough call: They're surely American, but they've had no impact on American music
as a whole.<p>We discussed whether this collection is
"historical." I said, "Not really." The idea actually
came from my spending last weekend reading about world music. As I read, I began
to wonder what people in THOSE countries should hear in order to get a sense of
OUR music.<p>Other possibilities: Home on the Range and My Old Kentucky Home.
<h3><!--mstheme--><font face="Times New Roman, Times New Roman, Times" color="#3399FF">Lori (Kopp) Witzel 1/12/2000:<!--mstheme--></font></h3>
<p>cool idea!</p>
<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--><table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%">
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Bill Monroe (father of bluegrass) <!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">black spiritual music (I heard a great CD with stuff from the 30s on it at
a photo shoot, but the gentleman passed away and I don�t recall the name
of the collection)<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Stephen Foster (for the mid-1800s) <!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">cowboy songs like "The Strawberry Roan" (for this and other
Americana folk, see <a HREF="http://www.mcneilmusic.com/cowboy.html">http://www.mcneilmusic.com/cowboy.html</a>)<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<b><font FACE="Arial" SIZE="4">
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Jimi Hendrix<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
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<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">David Alan Coe�s song "You Never Even Called Me by My Name"
(it has every country-western clich� in the book, very
tongue-in-cheek) <!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">some Navajo music,
atonal to my ears, but pretty American<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Benny Goodman!! (black jazz meets klez roots meets swing) <!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Bob Wills!!! (black jazz meets everything western meets swing<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Los Lobos<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Billie Holliday<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">some Hollywood musical show tunes (makes me shudder, but very American)<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">cartoon music soundtrack<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
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<p>:-)<font FACE="GillSans">
<h3><!--mstheme--><font face="Times New Roman, Times New Roman, Times" color="#3399FF">Vicki (Free) Presser 1/12/2000:<!--mstheme--></font></h3>
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<p>I heartily agree with votes for Louis Armstrong, who more or less invented
the jazz solo, and is an indisputable icon of American music. I would choose
West End Blues, whose opening bars define this new music for all first time.</p>
<p>I am a Billie Holiday fanatic (I wanted to be Billie Holiday when I was 15,
despite the obvious discrepancies in ethnic heritage and talent), but I think
that Bessie Smith needs to be included too. I�d use Bessie�s recording of
"Nobody Knows You When You�re Down and Out." For Lady Day, I�d
choose ""Tain�t Nobody�s Business If I Do." Great recording,
of course, but also classic American songs.
<h2><!--mstheme--><font face="Times New Roman, Times New Roman, Times" color="#3399FF"><a name="modern_classical"></a>Modern Classical Music<!--mstheme--></font></h2>
<p>1/13/2001 Nos: While listening to Khachaturian's Saber Dance, I started to
wonder whether there was other listenable modern "classical" music. I
came up with a brief list of composers. Then Bill Wollheim vastly expanded the
list. Here's what we have so far. We invite <a href="mailto:[email protected]"> your
reactions</a>:
<p>
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<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Isaac Albeniz<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Malcolm Arnold<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Samuel Barber<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Jack Beeson<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Leonard Bernstein<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Marc Blitzstein<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Ernest Bloch<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Max Bruch<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Carlos Chavez<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Aaron Copland<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Claude Debussy<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Frederick Delius<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Paul Dukas<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Edward Elgar<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">George Enescu<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Manuel de Falla<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Gabriel Faure<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Gerald Finzi<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Alberto Ginastera<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Alexander Glazunov<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Reinhold Gliere<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Percy Grainger<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Edvard Grieg<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">
<p>Ferde Grofe<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">
<p>Bernard Hermann<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">
<p>Gustav Holst<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">
<p>Alan Hovhaness<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">
<p>Jacques Ibert<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">
<p>Dmitri Kabelevsky<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica"><p>Aram Il'yich Khachaturian<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica"><p>Zoltan Kodaly<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">
<p>Erich Wolfgang Korngold<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Fritz Kreisler<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Constant Lambert<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Ernesto Lecuona<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Franz Lehar<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica"><font class="head">Gian Carlo Menotti</font><!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Darius Milhaud<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Federico Mompou<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Ennio Moricone<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Karl Orff<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Astor Piazzola<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Francis Poulenc<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica"><font class="head">Giacomo </font>Puccini <!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Sergei Prokofiev<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Sergei Rachmaninoff<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Maurice Ravel<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Ottorino Respighi<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Joaquin Rodrigo<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Nino Rota<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Jean Sibelius<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Stephen Sondheim <!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">
<p>Max Steiner<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">
<p>Richard Strauss<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">
<p>Igor Stravinsky<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Arthur Sullivan<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Virgil Thomson<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Joachim Turino<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Heitor Villa-Lobos<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Kurt Weill<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
<!--msthemelist--><tr><td valign="baseline" width="42"><img src="_themes/arcs/arcbul1a.gif" width="15" height="15" hspace="13"></td><td valign="top" width="100%"><!--mstheme--><font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica">Ralph Vaughan Williams<!--mstheme--></font><!--msthemelist--></td></tr>
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<p>Note: I found www.getmusic.com/artists/ [4-5-04: it's no longer available] to be a
helpful resource.</p>
<p>We've relegated the following to the "anachronistic" pile: Camille Saint-Sans.</p>
<h3><!--mstheme--><font face="Times New Roman, Times New Roman, Times" color="#3399FF">4/21/02 Critique by Stephen Lawrence: <!--mstheme--></font></h3>
<p>Your admirable modern classical list is incomplete without Krzysztof
Penderecki whose opera Die Teufel Von Loudun (The Devils Of Loudon) is so
striking I rushed out to buy it after hearing a short segment on the radio. His
instrumental and vocal textures and atonal/melodic writing have been extremely
influential. </p>
<p>I was glad to see the inclusion of Marc Blitzstein, whose Regina occupied my
mind exclusively for weeks after I first heard it. And Samuel Barber, same
reaction for Vanessa as Blitzstein's Regina. Other listees (I may have just
coined that) I love include Menotti, Korngold (certainly one of the great melody
writers in any genre, Milhaud (whose La<br>
Creation du Monde I played with the Hofstra Symphony in my college days). He
appeared on campus for a week, each day struggling to the stage on his crutches
and filling the Hofstra Playhouse with brilliance. (One music<br>
professor said (jokingly I assume) that Milhaud prided himself on being the
fastest pen in the west and he supposedly wrote on scrolls of paper, not sheets,
and rolled them into a basket, his writing hand never stopping). </p>
<p>But where is Bartok? An argument could also be made for George Crumb. Also
for Schoenberg and Berg (but not by me). Finally, if Kurt Weill makes the list
for his theater music (the instrumental music being all but forgotten), then one
must consider that Street Scene is certainly a lesser work than Porgy And Bess,
thus the case for Gershwin. And if Franz Lehar is included, then his successor
on the musical time line, Jerome Kern needs consideration. </p>
<p>But that starts to open up the entire world of popular theater music
(although it's already been opened by Sondheim) and I guess you have to stop
somewhere. Anyway, I was glad to see all or most of my personal favorites on the
list.</p>
<h3><!--mstheme--><font face="Times New Roman, Times New Roman, Times" color="#3399FF">4/22/02 Response by Bill Wollheim:<!--mstheme--></font></h3>
<p>Penderecki: I would not include him in the category of "listenable"
modern classical music.<br>
<br>
Bartok: ditto. Arguably one of the 20th century's greatest composers, and some
of his works (for instance the "Concerto for Orchestra") are fairly accessible,
but much of his work remains abstruse and far from accessible.<br>
<br>
I originally included Sondheim and not Gershwin because much of Sondheim's work
is intentionally "classical" in its goals and forms. I'd personally
take Gershwin's music over Sondheim's any day, but aside from "Porgy and
Bess," almost all of his work was in popular forms.</p>
<p>[Later, Bill added:] Grieg's dates are 1843-1907. He probably should not
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