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<p>Deven has started on a <a href="http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?%20hl=en&q=&ie=UTF8&z=17&ll=40.779355,-73.980238&spn=0.003103,0.007703&om=1&msid=110150265722017328806.00000111c2a3c47d31258&msa=0"> McCarthy map of Manhattan</a>,
using the new MyMap feature from Google. He already has included CDA on Columbus Circle,
FDR/Woodrow Wilson, O’Dwyer Townhouse on West 55th Street, Weeden HQ above new Citibank branch on West 72nd
Street. Be sure to read his excellent annotations. Still to add: Commodore Hotel (now Grand Hyatt), Henry Hudson Hotel.</p>
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<p>This came from Kathie back on 6/11/99, but I didn't get around to posting it
until 11-19-99. Sorry: A few little comments�how could you not mention Murray�s deli (home of
the bottomless chicken roll sandwich_ on your map list? Also, how about
mentioning, esp. for those of us not in nyc, what fdr-ww has become�the Key
West condos. I was shocked when i first saw it. Wonder what the tenants would
think if they could�ve seen Rupert & Pringle Pigeon in action.
</p>
<p>10/11/99 NOS: This weekend we received a menu from La Nueva Victoria under
our door. We used to eat there in the old days when it was called La Victoria
China and was about half a block north of its present location at Broadway and
95th Street. Also, Deven recently (9/23/99) reminded me that we used to prefer
La Princessa over La Victoria China. For the life of me, I cannot remember where
La Princessa was located or what it looked like. </p>
<p>11/16/99 DEVEN: Just looking at the note on <a href="http://www.gothamgazette.com/citizen/jun03/original_cuban_chinese.shtml">
Spanish/Chinese restaurants</a> on the old gang�s site and, if I recall La
Princessa was on the east side of Broadway midway between 100 and 101 Sts. It
was bright, with fake wood paneling, fluorescent lights, and the usual formica
tables. Their Arroz con Camerones was very large and quite edible. The green
peas were a nice touch. </p>
<p>11/16/99 NOS: Still cannot remember it, tho the name is
starting to sound familiar. At or near the same location is El Flor de Mayo,
one of the neighborhood's most popular Spanish-Chinese restaurants. </p>
<p>While we're doing restaurant memories . . . Iris and I
used to eat (prob. late 70's to early 80's) at Chuan Hong on the West side
of Broadway, between 105-106 sts. Two small rooms, fake wood paneling, and the
most garish lighting I have ever seen in my life. It had been recommended by
Deven. The food was good and the prices were cheap. </p>
<p>There was a place at the southwest corner of 94 and
Broadway. Maybe called Shanghai D'Or, even though it was one of the
then-ubiquitous Cantonese joints. I remember having dinner there with Power in
the late 60's. </p>
<p>What was the name of that awful place in the Greystone
Hotel? You could go from the Greystone's lobby, through the kitchen of the place
and into the restaurant proper. Must have been in the 70's that I ate there. As
I recall it, the mixed vegetable were mostly saut�ed onions. Yum. </p>
<p>Hunam Plum was on the Southwest corner of 100th and
Broadway. That location has been the site of more failed restaurants than almost
anywhere else in the neighborhood. Even Mariel Hemingway had a place
there. </p>
<p>11-16-99 Vicki Free Presser: </p>
<blockquote>
<p>Ah, comidas chinas y criollas�start with egg drop soup, proceed to the ropa
vieja. I liked Victoria China because of the name of course.</p>
<p>I think I remember eating at Stark�s on 90th Street with the
crowd. But I do have a great Tip Toe Inn (86th & B�way) story
that has nothing to do with politics. My mother went in one day and ordered the
fruit salad. Took one bite, called the waitress over and told her there was
booze in the salad. Waitress looked at my mother like she was crazy, but went
into the kitchen to check. Came back red-faced. She was new and didn�t know
there were two vats of fruit salad, the regular, and a special one for the
little grey-haired ladies from West End Avenue who wanted to have a tipple but
didn�t want the world to know . . .
</blockquote>
<p>11-16-99 Deven: I don�t know how one could talk about West Side food
memories and not mention Murry�s on Amsterdam between 95th & 96th.
It is where we could get french bread, olive condite, and Good-O cola supreme on
credit without a reference check.<p>11-16-99 NOS: 1. Greasy Harry's. I don't
remember its name so I just coined this one. An unbelievably low class coffee
shop at the northwest corner of 96 and Columbus. Late 60's. 2. Smack King.
Unbelievably low class hot dog stand on the west side of Broadway, just south of
96th street. Real name was Snack King, but we nicknamed it for a reason.
Probably early 70's. 3. John Fiore's Eat Shoppe. Good solid hamburger joint with
the beautiful puffed onion rings in the window. Northwest corner of 96 and
Broadway. Probably survived until the mid-70's. 4. The Yacht Bar. An
unbelievably low class bar next to the movie theater, between 99th and 100th
streets on the east side of Broadway. We'd go there in the middle of the night
for Stewart's Sandwiches, which they'd take out of the refrigerator and warm in
a toaster oven. Mid 70's. [4-8-07: There's not much on the Web about Stewart
Sandwiches, but there is <a href="http://www.mymac.com/showarticle.php?do=something&id=771">this</a>
and <a href="http://www.roadfood.com/Forums/post.asp?method=ReplyQuote&REPLY_ID=225654&TOPIC_ID=15025&FORUM_ID=4">this</a>.)
5. The Chess Club. Second floor, northwest corner of
Broadway and 96th street. You could get munchies there until about 2 am. Early
70's. [1-28-04 Nos:] There was a Spanish joint on the SW corner of 96 and
Amsterdam where you could get a container of beans and rice to take out for a
dollar.<p>This all reminds me that in Those Days, we didn't have all-night Korean
groceries on every block. Back then, finding late night munchies took work, son.<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marty_Reisman">Marty Reisman</a>
wasn't part of the gang, but he sure was part of the neighborhood, so I figured
I'd put some notes about him here. You can read a bio: <a href="http://www.usatt.org/organization/halloffame/reisman1.html">USATT
Hall of Fame Inductee (1981)</a>. You can even buy Table Tennis equipment from
him: http://users.erols.com/ttworld/hardbatopen.htm
("Marty Reisman distributes the Reisman/Hock 3-ply blade with
extra large face. Personally endorsed to recipient with Reisman signature and
logo. $29.95 + $3 shipping. He also has a limited supply of 5-ply blades and
hard rubber. 330 East 49th St., New York, NY 10017. 212-758-6768 (ph),
212-688-1428 (fax)") [6-7-02 link broken -- Nos] [Nos 1-10-06: See http://www.atpengland.co.uk/wst_page6.html
{9-27-06 link broken}]<p>9-27-06 Nos: You can find Marty all over Google these
days. Including an official Marty Reisman thong at CafePress (gotta get me one).<p>11-16-99 Stephanie Digby:
<blockquote>
<p>Still remember <a href="http://www.chowhound.com/topics/341918"> La Princessa</a> with affection - best black beans. Also remember
when it was closed down for health reasons. When it reopened, the only visible
difference was that they no longer flipped the coke caps onto the floor.</p>
<p>Was there another Chinese restaurant at 94th before Shanghai D�Or? If so,
does anyone remember it�s name? Seem to recall that I liked it.</p>
</blockquote>
<p>11-17-99 Kathie sent <a href="kathie3.htm">long email</a> with several
recollections of the old days on the West Side.</p>
<p>11-17-99 Deven: I seem to recall Shanghai D�Or on or
just south of the southeast corner of 94th & Bway, but I don�t
recall what was on the southwest corner. It might have been another comidas
chinas y criolas.</p>
<p>11-17-99 Martin: The comidas (I don�t believe chinas)
y criolas place sounds right to me. And let's not forget Taj Mahal, which was on
the west side of Broadway between 93rd and 94th (I�m not
sure on the cross streets.)</p>
<p>11-17-99 Vicki Free Presser: The Taj Mahal was indeed
on the West Side of B�way, but it was between 92nd and 93rd�I
remember precisely because it was in my building. In fact, I had my 12th
birthday party there.</p>
<p>11-18-99 Vicki: Wait, it wasn�t the taj mahal, -- it
was the Maharajah India Restaurant!</p>
<p>11-18-99 Stephanie: Vicki, wasn�t
that the place for which you wrote a review, rather tactfully commenting on the
delicacy of the seasoning?</p>
<p>11-18-99 Vicki: Yes, Stephanie, you remember correctly.
About 1972-73 I was a restaurant and arts reviewer for India Abroad, a rag owned
by friends of a fellow Brandeis graduate (One night the whole editorial staff
went out to eat after putting the paper to bed, and I realized the there was
nothin� but Jews and Hindus at the table). Yes, my review hinted that this was
the blandest Indian food in captivity�and yet they proudly diplayed my review
in the window, I think until the board of health closed the place down.</p>
<p>11-18-99 Deven: I recall Taj Mahal (site of the
infamous "Let�s order one of everything on the menu" feast) being
somewhat lower on Broadway, perhaps between 91 & 92 Sts. And if we�re
really going to mention every restaurant we ate at why has no one mentioned the
lovely rat-hole where we used to have breakfast after dropping off The Advocate
at the bulk mail section of the GPO.</p>
<p>11-19-99 Nos: Taj Mahal was the name of an Indian
import store on the East side of Braodway in 80's or 90's (streets, that is).
I'm sure the restaurant was called Maharaja India, though I never ate there. I
like Indian food, though I always ask for it to be prepared "tourist
style."</p>
<p>12/5/99 Franne: Hi, Nos. Do you remember Cleopatra? Now
that was a unique restaurant.</p>
<p>12/31/00 [Prob. Deven] Cleopatra was indeed an unusual restaurant. Their apricot pudding
was heavenly. And when the chef bought out the owner the name was changed to At
Our Place, an almost anagram of Cleopatra. I recently interviewed, but did not
hire, a cook who used to work there.
<p>1/28/04 email from David Golden:
<blockquote>
<p>I found your site accidentally when I Googled "comidas chinas y criollas."
I grew up in the nabe, and when I was 8 sported a McCarthy button. The primaries
had me thinking about that the other day. I also remember one of my teachers
wearing an O!Dwyer button.
<p>Shanghai d'Or was on 94 & Bway as far back as I can remember in the
1960s. We never went there. We preferred the Manchuria between 93rd & 94th.
You'll notice their sign is still mounted high on the building if you look up.
They had a great, fanciful mural of the Brooklyn Bridge with junks in the river
and a blimp.
<p>My favorite C3 place was the Pez Dorado on B'way between 92 & 93.
</blockquote>
<p>11-12-04 Nos: The Chinese restaurants are going fast. When I got to the West
Side in 1968, there were Cantonese joints all over the place. A few years
later, they were overtaken by the Szechuan and Hunan places. Now they're mostly
gone. There are currently only six Chinese-Chinese (as opposed to Spanish
Chinese) restaurants on Broadway between 84th and 116th streets: Ollie's at 84;
Empire Szechaun at 97th; Hunan Balcony at 98th; Empire Szechuan Kyoto at 100th; Ming's Wok at 101st; and Ollie's at 116th. Gone are the one at about 85th, the place that
Carmine's replaced at 91st, Broadway Cottage II at about 92nd, Shanghai
D'Or at 94th, Szechuan West at 100th, Hunan Plum at 100th, Broadway Cottage at
103rd, Chuan Hong at 104th, Dynasty at 110th, and something upstairs at about
111th.<p>We're also losing the Spanish-Chinese (comidas chinas y criollas)
places -- at least on Broadway. In the last year or two, we lost <a href="http://www.bruner.net/blog/archives/011141.shtml"> La Tacita de
Oro</a> at 99th, La Casita at 106th and La Bella China at 108th.<p>Fortunately,
there's no shortage of yuppie fern bars.<p>1-10-06 Nos: We just lost the giganto
Empire Szechuan at 97th Street; it merged with Empire Szechuan Kyoto at 100th.
They also briefly had another place on the west side of Broadway, between 97 and
98th.<p>9-26-06 Martin forwarded this from James Farber:
<blockquote>
<p>I walked by today and saw that the sign was down, the windows were papered
over, and there was no notice of renovation. Then I searched on-line and
found only this on menupages.com:
<blockquote>
<p>Posted by Rachel on 09/09/2006<br>
<b><span style="FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Vinnie's Is NO MORE<br>
</span></b>Sadly, after decades of fantastic pizza and business, Upper West
Side rent has gone up too high, and Vinnie's has been forced to close.
Though I was not happy about renovations that had recently been done,
Vinnie's was the pizza "staple" of the neighborhood, and will be
missed. R.I.P Vinnie's!
</blockquote>
<p>Sadly,<br>
JAF
</blockquote>
<p>Nos says: Who the hell was Vinnie? I know Big Nick's, and Sal & Carmine's
is still here (over 30 years), but I don't know Vinnie's. [Martin explains:
". . . the joint on the East side of Amsterdam Avenue between 73rd and 74th
Street. Long been my pizza of choice."] Also, La Caridad at 78
& Bway is closed for renovations. My friend Wendy says they'll reopen in
smaller space.<p>Martin has contributed this poem:
<blockquote>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial">Oh
my, what a wonderful pie.<br>
I think I may need a good cry.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial">When
I think of those days<br>
For a good slice I craved</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial">There
was only one place I would try.</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial">For
decades Vinnie was home<br>
To the best pizza this side of Rome</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial">I
filled up with glee<br>
On crust, sauce and cheese</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial">Now
I�ll have to make do with Calzone.</span></font></p>
</blockquote>
<p class="MsoNormal">Nos says 2-12-07: Ming's Wok (Chinese, abt 101 and
Broadway) has closed. La Rosita (Spanish, abt 108th and Broadway) has also
closed.</p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Nos says 3-30-2011: The only "regular" Chinese restaurants left on this strip are Pearl's, Hunan Balcony, and Empire Szechuan Kyoto. The trend was written up in the West Side Spirit, Feb 25, 2010, article <a href="http://westsidespirit.com/2010/02/26/where-has-all-the-moo-shoo-gone/">"Where has all the Moo Shoo gone?"</a> The Chinese and Spanish joints that I loved have been replaced Thai and Asian places such as <a href="http://www.sookkrestaurant.com/">Sookk</a>, Sura, Malaysia Grill, <a href="http://thaimarketny.com/">Thai Market</a>, and <a href="http://www.ozencuisine.com/">Ozen</a>. </p>
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