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<p>Posted by <b><!--poster-->Glenn Kempf</b>
on <!--date-->22:56 9/10/02
<p>In reply to: <a href="495.html">Uytai!</a> posted by Glenn Kempf</b>  on 22:51 9/9/02


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<p>
 A postscript: after writing that last passage, I took another look at  
the Historical Atlas and saw that you were already ahead of me-- marking 
the invention of the chariot by the Echizimi by c. -150, and from them 
to the other Easterners (so the Cuzeians would not have had 
chariots at the time of their invasion two centuries earlier), and of 
the sturrip by the Munkhashi by their invasion of the Plain in c. 458 
(paralleling the appearance of the chariot in our Middle East c. 
2500-2000 B.C. and the sturrip on the Eurasian steppe c. 200 B.C., but 
with a much faster transition).

<p>A couple of questions: 

<p>1. How long did it take the Cuzeians and Cadhinorians (and the steppe 
barbarians to the south) to adopt the sturrip as well?  They probably 
didn't have time before the great battle breaking the seige of Eleisa.  
(I'm not sure how fast these things spread on Earth either.)

<p>2. What role did the ilii play with the Cuzeians and Cadhinorians 
against Munkhash?  Did they integrate themselves into the Cuzeian 
forces?  I presume that any land-bound ilii forces would have been 
infantry (and artillery?), not cavalry; they don't seem to have had 
anything to do with horses or other domesticated land animals (unless 
there's an alternate source for those dragon legends... ;-)

<p>Ad onlel&aacute;n,
<br>Glenn


<hr><i>Mark responds:
<p>I'm probably going to move the invention of the chariot up a bit,
so the Cuzeians can make use of them.  I read an interesting description
of chariot warfare on the web; one peculiarity would be that chariots
were at their best while retreating.  A chariot moving toward you 
exposes an awful lot of vulnerable horseflesh.  They're also said to
be enormously expensive.

<p>1. Not in time to help with the siege, certainly.  Perhaps a generation
before the technology was understood and the riders practised in it.

<p>2. The ilii were most effective in defending the cities, and in undertaking
guerrilla action against Munkh&acirc;shi forces-- i.e., tracking down and
doing damage to a Munkh&acirc;shi army before it could engage in battle.
An analogy might be a force of Renaissance military engineers sent back
in time to aid the Trojans against the Greeks: they were best used 
not as a unit in a pitched battle, but in siege-breaking.

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