KGRKJGETMRETU895U-589TY5MIGM5JGB5SDFESFREWTGR54TY
Server : Apache/2.4.62
System : FreeBSD fbsdweb2.web.rcn.net 14.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 14.1-RELEASE releng/14.1-n267679-10e31f0946d8 GENERIC amd64
User : www ( 80)
PHP Version : 8.3.8
Disable Function : NONE
Directory :  /domains/markrose/board/messages/

Upload File :
current_dir [ Writeable ] document_root [ Writeable ]

 

Current File : /domains/markrose/board/messages/462.html
<html><head><title>Language evolution and the ic&euml;lani</title></head>

<body bgcolor="#FFFFFF">

<center><h1><!--title-->Language evolution and the ic&euml;lani
</h1></center>

<hr size=7 width=75>
<p>Posted by <b><!--poster-->Luca Mangiat</b>
on <!--date-->22:12 7/9/02
<p>In reply to: <a href="461.html">Language evolution and the ic&euml;lani</a> posted by Irgend Jemand</b>  on 15:00 7/7/02


<!-- PUT MESSAGE HERE -->
<p>
Hi!

<p>It's been quite a long time since my latest posting...

<p>Some time ago I was wondering about a language violating some universally
accepted characters of human languages. I was particularly thinking about a
language with fixed word order but free morphemic location within the same
word (or, at least, within the same noun/verb phrase). Most of human
languages- at least agglutinating and inflecting languages- have, on the
other hand, a quite free word order and an extreemely fixed morphemic
order). For instance, in the Italian sentence:

<p><i>Le ragazze mangiavano mele</i><br>
The girls ate apples

<p>which can be morphemically analysed as:
<br><i>le-ragazz-e mangi-av-ano mel-e</i>
<br>artpl-girl-pl eat-impf-3pl apple-pl

<p>the morphemes within each word have an unchangeable order. In my
experimental language the order of the morphemes presents no constraints,
while the word order is fixed. Such a grammar, when applied to Italian,
could generate the following sentences (amongst many others):

<p><i>eragazzle avmangiano emel
<br>ragazzlee anoavmangi mele
<br>leragazze mangianoav emel</i>
<br>...

<p>Such a grammar would require, however, a redefinition of the concept 'word',
I suppose... what do you think?

<p>Luca





<hr><i>Mark responds:
<p>Interesting idea; I think you've succeeded in finding something that
reverses an apparent universal... at least, I've never heard of a natural
language with completely free morpheme order.  I'd want to know what
stylistic or semantic effect the variious orders have, though.

</i>

<hr><center>
<i>To make a reply, or see replies, see <a href="../">the index page</a>.</i>
</center>

<hr>

<!-- For index page:
<li><a href="messages/462.html">Language evolution and the ic&euml;lani</a> - 
    <b>Luca Mangiat</b>
 <i>22:12 7/9/02</i>
-->

</body></html>

Anon7 - 2021