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<p>Posted by <b><!--poster-->Christopher O'Regan</b>
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I know that magic is a difficult subject for us mortal terrestrials to
understand, but I'm still curious as to what impact it has on Almean
societies as a whole. So, no doubt due to Harry Potter, whose movie has
just been released down here, i've had magic on the brain of late.

<p>For example, is it very widespread? Verdurian wizards seem to owe a great
deal to the ancient Cadhinorian practices (at least, so is my
impression), so was Cadhinas notable as being magically "advanced"? Is
magic limited to Dhekhnam and Verduria, or are there other states with
greater/lesser magical knowledge? I imagine Cuzeians wouldn't have had a
lot to do with it, but the ilii and ktuvoki obviously do. Are humans
capable of "discovering" magic on their own, or were they taught by the
non-human races? Is it really necessary to have an eerie tower filled
with ancient tomes, dribbly candles, and stuffed alligators, or can magic
be drummed up by your average tribal shaman on the fly, without the use
of props? Different civilisations would no doubt have different taboos
regarding magic, and diferrent understanding of it, or is there a
"universal fraternity" of wizardly types?

<p>Oh yes, and I imagine wizards are celibate?


<p>--Regards

<br>Rhisto Filipei



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<p>I'm not totally satisfied with my take on magic; but here's what I have so far.

<p>I start from a dislike of the way magic is handled in many an RPG--
as a form of quasi-science.  It's treated as basically a form of high
technology with Addams Family interiors.  Even that would be acceptable
if it were simply treated *as* technology-- as a different set of 
physical laws, handled by technicians.  But normally it's not; the world
is still stock-medieval, and that bugs me.  Why wouldn't you simply use
Light spells as street lighting, and Teleport for the cargo industry, and Audible
Glamer for broadcasting game shows, and so on?

<p>So, the magical systems that make sense to me must be <b>unreliable</b>,
something difficult for a society to systematically exploit.  Almean 
magic, then, is not a science, but an art, or a spiritual practice.

<p>What could make magic unreliable?  The answer I came up with is what
makes economics or art unreliable: it's linked to actual beings, Powers
with personalities and agendas of their own.  (See <a href="http://www.zompist.com/pagan.htm#Magic">the paganism page</a> for more on this.)  The Powers
will be insulted if you ask them to light the city or broadcast sports
events.  If they like you, however, they may be willing to light your
castle, discipline your enemies, or perform other useful feats.

<p><b>If</b> they like you.  The idea explains also why magicians might
be a lonely and suspicious profession.  Not everyone has what it takes to
please the Powers-- or to maintain their own will and personality while
dealing with superhuman beings-- and pleasing them may require acts and
a lifestyle profoundly difficult or repugnant to most people.

<p>As to <b>what</b> the magicians can do, I stole an idea from <b>Orlando Furioso</b>, which explains magic as the work, literally, of demons.  Imagine
an army of invisible, very fast, strong, but not very bright slaves.
They would be very good at (say) building a castle in an hour, or hunting
an entire town to find a lost item; but they
cannot read minds or transmute elements.

<p>The <a href="../../zeir.htm">Effect/Counter-effect story</a> plays with a 
slightly different solution to the problem: magic is hard to exploit here
because any magical effect also creates an anti-effect opposing it.  If
you cure someone, someone else will fall sick; if you build a castle, 
another will fall down.  If you harm someone, a stranger will receive an
unexpected benefit.  You can't exploit this sort of magic on a large scale
because its net effect is zero.  (It's a bit like creating particles and
antiparticles out of the vaccum!)

<p>(Almean magic doesn't necessary work as in that story.  It may well be
Verdurian science fiction... why shouldn't a fictional world have fiction
of its own?)

<p>As for celibacy, a low-level magician like Tivuran doesn't bother 
with it.  But I think a complete devotion to a Power might well be 
incompatible with a healthy relationship!

<p>By the way, I like Harry Potter a lot, despite its very different
conception of magic-- though I've only read one book.
Being a pedant, I don't want to buy the adulterated American versions of the books!


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