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<h1>HOW TO ARGUE WITH ZOMPIST</h1>
<h2>or, Social Skills 101</a></h2>
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<b>Contents</b>
<p><a href="#debate">Why debate at all?</a>
<br><a href="#enemy">Pray for a good enemy</a>
<br><a href="#flamewars">What’s wrong with flamewars?</a>
<br><a href="#caveats">Some caveats to start</a>
<br><a href="#advice">Positive advice</a>
<br><a href="#three">The big 2: Abuse, disdain, sarcasm</a>
<br><a href="#annoyances">More annoyances</a>
<br><a href="#peeves">Minor peeves</a>
<br><a href="#bangs">On gang-bangs</a>
<br><a href="#Evidence">Evidence: WANT</a>
<br><a href="#cranks">Cranks</a>
<br><a href="#ideo">Ideologues</a>
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<p>Good arguments are fun, but bad arguments are horrible. This page is the result of many years pondering what the difference is.
<h2><a name="debate">Why debate at all?</a></h2>
<ul>
<li>It’s fun. You’re engaged with some subject that interests you, and with people who are just as interested.
<li>You can learn a lot, either from your opponents or from side reading.
<li>You can make friends. (One of my best friends I met during an online debate.)
<li>You discover what you yourself believe. After an argument I usually have a better idea of my own opinions and how best to express them.
</ul>
<h2><a name="enemy">Pray for a good enemy</a></h2>
Someone (unfortunately I forget who) mentioned that the best thing an academic can have is a good enemy. Your friends will, perhaps, read through your papers and make a few comments. But only an enemy will read through an entire book, for free, finding every error and questionable statement.
<p>Some of the best pages on my site— the <a href="libertos.html">anti-libertarian page</a> and the <a href="chance.htm">essay on chance resemblances</a>— owe their quality to some very annoying critics. They didn’t change my mind, but they pointed out gaps in my knowledge or logic, and inspired more information and more clarity.
<p>I think this is what Proverbs 27:17 had in mind: “Iron sharpens iron; so a man sharpens the face of his friend.”
<p>As a corollary, if you’re arguing on-line, <i>your opponent is doing you a favor by their criticism</i>. Respect the time and effort they put in by responding civilly.
<h2><a name="flamewars">What’s wrong with flamewars?</a></h2>
If arguments are so good, why complain at all? Because once an argument becomes a flamewar, the good elements disappear. It becomes a waste of time.
<p>
<img src="illo/tf2-flames.jpg" align="right" border="1">
Anything that isn’t a discussion on the issues wastes time:
<ul>
<li>Meta-discussion
<li>Personal abuse
<li>Rhetorical games
<li>Batting away straw men
</ul>
Not only do these things make people mad and make the conversation unpleasant, they kill forward progress. If you’re talking about each other, you’re not talking about the issues any more and no one will learn anything.
<h2><a name="caveats">Some caveats to start</a></h2>
<ul>
<li>This is a personal list. Some of these things peeve me but don’t bother other people.
<p><li>I’m not claiming to be free of these sins... on the contrary, I’ve learned about many of them the hard way.
<p><li>I use the generic “you” here; it’s just less awkward to say “Back up your statements” than “Someone who is arguing should back up their statements.”
<p><li>Don’t apply the rules pedantically. If someone says “You don’t get it”, that’s not personal abuse, especially if they go on to explain what they did mean. Having too thin a skin derails arguments too.
</ul>
<h2><a name="advice">Positive advice</a></h2>
A lot of this page will be about things going wrong, so let me start the other way. Here’s some guidelines for good arguments:
<ul>
<p><li>Be the most civil person in the discussion. If you’re watching other people argue, often the angriest person comes off the worst.
<p><li>Stick to the issues.
<p><li>Use evidence. Provide URLs or cite books or your own experience to back up your claims.
<p><li>Use ‘I’ not ‘you’ statements. Talk about the other guy’s ideas, not about the other guy.
<p><li>People hate <i>non-recognition</i> more than they object to disagreement. They want to feel that their point is understood and acknowledged.
<p>It’s said that H.L. Mencken replied to all correspondents with the same statement: “There may be something in what you say.” Not a bad policy, unless the recipients compare notes.
<p><li>Admit when you don’t know, or were wrong.
<p><li>Acknowledge points of agreement. This doesn’t defuse the disagreements, but it’s polite, and tells people that you read everything.
<p><li>Choose your fights. Not everything is worth arguing about; nor is everyone a good arguing partner.
</ul>
OK, now let’s talk about things going wrong!
<h2><a name="three">The big three: Abuse, disdain, sarcasm</a></h2>
<h3>Personal abuse</h3>
This is the worst sin, and yet for that very reason, the easiest handled.
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<p><i>You don’t have to engage in a conversation that starts with name-calling.</i> If someone is signalling up front that they’re going to be a jerk, they’ve disqualified themselves from civil discussion. Tell them so, or ignore them. But life is too short to engage with such people.
<p>That’s my policy with e-mail: if it starts with abuse, I throw it out.
<p>If a person becomes abusive on a public forum, there are usually clear rules they’ve violated. Contact an admin.
<p>(Back on Usenet few newsgroups were moderated— and most filled up with garbage. In that case the best response to abuse was *plonk* ... the sound of the abuser hitting the bottom of your killfile.)
<p>Abuse can occur in any field— Geoffrey Pullum once proposed an annual award for Withering Invective for linguists— but it’s become regrettably commonplace in politics. That doesn’t make it acceptable. Abusive people are clowns; ignore them.
<h3>Treating opponents as idiots</h3>
I hope it’s clear that this is rude; but even more importantly, it’s itself stupid. <i>Disdain is how smart people make themselves stupid.
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<br>If you think your opponents are idiots, you don’t expend much thought on your arguments, or theirs. So you lose all the benefits of argumentation I outlined above.
<p>A good example is <a href="searle.html">Searle’s Chinese Room</a>; Searle’s disdain for his critics keeps him from seeing glaring holes in his argument.
<p>It’s also common in political arguments... otherwise intelligent people often become brute dualists when it comes to politics, treating the other side as entirely demonic.
<p>A rule of thumb: If an otherwise smart person says something dumb, <i>assume you misunderstood</i>. Maybe they were unclear, maybe they didn’t mean a particular word the way you took it, maybe you didn’t follow them, maybe they left out something because they thought it was obvious or it was a side point or would take too long to explain.
<p>Wrong response: <i>“Moron. Pyros do <i>not</i> have a win button.”</i>
<p>Better: <i>“Wait, do you really mean that pyros are easy to play? How often are they the top scorers, then?”</i>
<p>It’s probably unwise to offer many counter-arguments— if you’re not really addressing his points, it will only waste time if he has to bat away your counters.
<h3>Sarcasm</h3>
Sarcasm is fun. But.
<p>In years of online discussion, I’ve met a lot of cranks: in linguistics, in physics, in software design, in politics. To be a crank you really can’t have much of a sense of humor— it gets in the way of the terrible earnestness. The one type of near-humor they all share, however, is sarcasm. Cranky screeds are usually puncuated by ferocious bursts of snark.
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<br>As a result it’s rather spoiled for me as a rhetorical device. <i>“Well, I’m sorry the US tried to bring freedom to people who were trying to kill us.”</i> Where to start in explaining the misconceptions? Why bother?
<p>Sarcasm isn’t clever; it’s easy and cheap, just one step above calling people names.
<p>To me, it signals that the fruitful discussion is probably over. The other person isn’t really thinking any more; all they want is a flamewar.
<p>A small number of people have a gift for verbal abuse— but even with them, it just has entertainment value for their friends; it’s of no use in a debate.
<h2><a name="annoyances">More annoyances</a></h2>
The big three tend to come up all the time. The following may or may not be present, but they’re all bad signs.
<h3>Meta-discussion</h3>
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It’s not bad if a debate gets rough at time, so long as there’s still content going on. Once the meta-discussion starts, however, it rarely lets up. If someone starts complaining about the person they’re arguing with, I conclude that they’re more interested in their own dignity than in the subject.
<p>Worse than that: just as spelling flames are very likely to contain at least one spelling error, some karmic law guarantees that meta-discussion is <i>always</i> self-incriminating.
<p>I wish computers came with a little device like a virus checker that would reach out and administer an electric shock when someone’s about to make complaints about behavior <i>that they themselves are guilty of</i>.
<p>A few keywords it would check for:
<ul>
<li> misreading
<li> reading comprehension
<li> accusations
<li> insulting
<li> condescending
<li> whine
</ul>
The shock should be dialled up if any of these are described as <i>willful</i>.
<p>People hate unfairness, and they will be angry like big shaved bears if they’re accused of the same things they see you doing.
<p>Personally— despite the impression that may be created by this page— I’m willing to tolerate some roughness. But not if the other person can’t take the same roughness back. If you’re insulting, accept that you’ll be insulted back.
<p>But again, the main problem is that meta-discussion ends the actual discussion.
<h3><a name="under">“You don’t understand!”</a></h3>
This is perhaps the most common bit of meta-discussion. The frustration is natural— as I suggested, people want to be <i>understood</i> even more than they want to be agreed with.
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<p>Much of my working life consists of designing user interfaces; when I get home, I’m a writer. Wearing either hat, I think it’d be pathetic to blame users or readers for having difficulty with my work.
<i>It’s my job to make myself understood.
<p></i>Instead of whining about “misreading”, <i>take responsibility for your words</i>. <b><i>You were unclear</b></i>. If you think this way, you’ll have a much better time in debates.
<p>And believe me, your writing isn’t as clear as you think. I pride myself on my writing skills... but in the heat of an argument I may not notice that something can be taken several ways, or I may be more forceful than clear.
<p>As well, the best and clearest exposition often occurs to me <i>in the course of</i> and <i>because of</i> an argument.
<p>Another thought: if you feel your point wasn’t understood: maybe it was, but it just wasn’t considered very interesting, or the other person wanted to rush on to make a different point. Or maybe person A understood it but B didn’t.
<p>If what you’re explaining is something big— quantum mechanics, the comparative method, deconstructionism— don’t expect it to go down easily. Explaining things for outsiders is a skill, and the longer it’s been since you learned the material, the harder it may be to take an outsider’s point of view.
<h3>Rhetorical telepathy</h3>
Some debaters want to talk about <i>you</i>; and not knowing you, they resort to fantasy. Common tactics:
<ul>
<li>Informing you what your position is. A conservative correspondent, for instance, once told me that he considered Hillary Clinton the leader of the liberals. Dude, who the hell cares what you, a non-liberal, “consider” to be our leader?
<p><li>Theorizing about your motivations, psychology, or your sins. Another correspondent once opined that I opposed Clinton’s impeachment because I must be a fornicator.
<p><li>Creating a brain-dead parody of your position and pointing out its deficiencies.
</ul>
These things don’t even make <i>sense</i> as a debating tactic— they can <i>never</i> be convincing, because an on-line stranger doesn’t know more about my brain than I do.
<p>A more subtle form: trying to hold people accountable for <i>your </i>deductions from <i>your </i>description of their position. Maybe you think that Republican, or Democratic policy will be the ruination of the country. That doesn’t mean that your opponents have the actual intention of ruining the country and that you can ask why they want to do so. Who knows what’s on their minds; but a good guess is that they think they’re helping it.
<p>Helpful tip: people respond better to questions about their beliefs, even hostile ones, than to statements about them.
<h3>Literalism</h3>
For some reason, in a failed argument people behave like Lewis Carroll characters, focussing minutely on word choices and surface meanings. <i>“You said that was unforgivable. Fine, since you won’t ever forgive, there’s no use talking.”</i> More than once I’ve got into an argument on a thread, and when I finally figure out what the problem is, it’s the precise wording of the very first paragraph I posted, wording I’ve half forgotten since I’ve stated my point better since.
<p>If you’re one of the people who does this... er, well, don’t do that. Do-overs are allowed. If you watch carefully, you’ll often find that people’s positions converge to some extent in the course of an argument, as people add missing qualifiers and adapt to attacks.
<h3>Argument by adjective</h3>
Some people seem to think that adjectives are damning. “Typical statist/dualist/Chomskian response.”
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There are sophisticated forms of this as well. I’ve met people who show real glee when they can fit you into a <i>two-term</i> category... <i>“So you’re a Keynesian Situationalist.”</i> It’s as if they think they have your number, that henceforth you must follow the behavior they’ve assigned to you.
<p>First problem: such statements doesn’t actually <i>show</i> anything. Even if correct, it’s just an assignment to category X, and doesn’t prove a thing unless you accept the assumption that category X is bad— and this being an argument, you don’t.
<p>The deeper problem: <a href="rants05.html#6">as a linguist, I’m not impressed.</a> Words and classification systems are human inventions, mental devices to help us look at the world. If you assign people to a category, it tells us next to nothing about them, though it may tell us much about your set of boxes.
<p>Labelling political positions is especially silly; no one can be reduced to a one-word slur, or even a short phrase. It certainly can’t be used to predict an individual’s other opinions; if you try, you’re likely to be wrong and waste time as the individual has to correct your guess.
<p><b>Corollary 1</b>: it’s not important <i>exactly what word</i> to apply to a situation. Most people are Whorfians when it comes to politics— other people’s politics. But loaded terms are usually used as irregular verbs: <i>“I’m retaliating for outrageous atrocities; you’re practicing indiscriminate aggression; he is a terrorist. I’m spiritually enlightened, you’ve found religion, he’s joined a cult.” </i>This sort of thing isn’t insight, it’s simply judgment. And there’s rarely any reason to ramp up the rhetoric on your judgments; they’re usually obvious anyway.
<p><b>Corollary 2</b>: any time you’re tempted to dismiss a class of people as not knowing what they’re talking about, or as evil, or just not very smart, <i>you</i> are the one in intellectual trouble.
<p>Prejudice is another way smart people make themselves stupid. You never know where wisdom will strike. Once I met an unrepentant Stalinist who dominated a discussion (it was about the attempted coup in the last year of the USSR) with his calm and superior insight.
<h3>Straw men</h3>
A straw man is a parody of your opponent’s position (usually delivered with sputtering sarcasm). It’s not only an infuriating technique, it’s <i>dumb</i>. The parody doesn’t affect your opponent in the slightest, because it’s your invention. All it does is make him mad, and waste time as he swats it down.
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<p>An example: <i>“You say that all languages are equally complex? I guess you never saw the 50 pages of conjugations in my Russian textbook. You can explain English verbs in half a page. So in your world does 50 = 1/2?”</i>
<p>(If that piques your interest, see the <a href="/lang9.html#13">sci.lang FAQ</a>.)
<p>Why does it make people mad? Again, people want to be understood. A straw man is a declaration that the person doesn’t <i>want</i> to understand.
<p>Ways to avoid building straw men:
<ul>
<li>If it seems like your opponent is saying something ridiculous, stop, drop, and <i>query</i>. Find the strangest bit and ask what they meant, or ask about the obvious exception. They might well explain satisfactorily, and save you writing a few hundred words of rant.
<p><li>Don’t rephrase maliciously. If the other guy said “If he said that he’s wrong”, don’t respond “So he’s a liar.” People’s statements in an argument may be very carefully put together, since they’re under attack. You can’t rip off the ‘if’ statements and replace all the words with inflated ones without distorting their position.
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Some tricky points, though:
<ul><li>Complaining of straw men is meta-discussion, and <i>falsely</i> complaining of straw men is offensive. See <a href="#under">“You don’t understand”</a> above. Don’t blame people for not understanding every nuance of your position at once. (It’s the exaggeration and the malice that distinguish a real straw man from an honest misunderstanding.)
<p><li>Don’t confuse straw men with the <i>reductio ad absurdam</i>, a perfectly legitimate logical technique. A reductio is an absurd implication that derives logically from a hypothesis; in logic, it’s a proof that the hypothesis is wrong. (It’s not as devastating outside logic, because the premises and the logic are both likely to be shakier.)
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<h2><a name="peeves">Minor peeves</a></h2>
These don’t come up as much, though they’re annoying when they do.
<h3>Opponent conflation</h3>
If I intervene in a thread, it’s often to respond to some single point that catches my eye. If I respond to X’s post, it does <i>not</i> mean that I endorse everything anyone has said up to that point against X, nor am I responsible for what other people are saying earlier or later in the thread.
<p>It may seem a lot to ask to figure out what’s the position of everyone in a large debate, but most forums come with a rather helpful feature: people’s words are listed under their names, so you can easily see what each one said.
<h3>The malicious non-response</h3>
Sometimes I don’t respond to something, and someone pounces on this, as if it’s <i>so telling </i>that I <i>conveniently </i>passed over this apparently <i>devastating </i>point.
<p>As a public service, here’s five more likely reasons I might not have responded to every item in your 400-line post:
<ul>
<li>I agreed with it, or close enough. It happens.
<li>It wasn’t that important.
<li>I was trying to focus the discussion. We won’t get anywhere arguing about fifty things at once.
<li>I had no more time. A serious debate takes hours, time usually taken from things I should really be doing instead.
<li>You were so far off the rails by that time that it wasn’t worth it.
</ul>
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<h3>Grudge hoarders</h3>
On a public forum you may well argue with the same people over and over, perhaps on the same topic, perhaps on many different ones.
<p>A natural tendency is to hoard grudges from thread to thread, and it soon makes all encounters acrimonious and the forum unpleasant. Somebody makes an innocuous post, and they’re immediately attacked— <i>“There you go again!”—</i> starting at the emotional peak of the last flame war.
<p>I try to follow a simple rule in such cases: <i>in the next thread, we start afresh</i>. Take a break, forget the gnawing grievances, flush your buffers, do whatever it takes to approach the next thread as if you’d never seen the person before.
<p>It helps to meet people offline or have threads for getting to know people and having fun. It’s easier to have good arguments with people you feel good about.
<h3>Topic police</h3>
This may be the least of the problems described on this page, because it usually doesn’t work anyway. But some people, especially if they started a thread, feel that they can control its contents. But people discuss what they find interesting, and a thread can veer off unpredictably from its origins.
<p>Some boards, like mine, allow admins to branch off side topics, so that can be a good idea if people are talking about two very different topics at once.
<h2><a name="bangs">On gang-bangs</a></h2>
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Sometimes you get a minority viewpoint and a whole bunch of people arguing against it. This requires a little extra sensitivity.
<p>Allow the lone person (if they’re a regular) a little extra leeway. It’s not much fun to have half a dozen people jumping on you; it’s easy to get angry.
<p>Don’t be a bully. Being in the majority doesn’t mean that you get to mock those who aren’t.
<p>It’s not necessary to have six people making the same objection. Read the thread to see if somone already made your point.
<p>It’s a very human thing that when someone is being <i>extra dense</i>, people feel that <i>one devastating rejoinder </i>will break through and fix them. At the same time the embattled person may feel, also very naturally, that he has to respond to <i>every post</i>. Put these tendencies together and you have a flamewar that can last forever and take over the forum. As an admin, I usually shut down such discussions when it’s clear that they’re going nowhere.
<p>Also see <i><a href="#cranks">Cranks</a> </i>and<i> <a href="#ideo">Ideologues</a></i> below.
<h2><a name="Evidence">Evidence: WANT</a></h2>
If you have no evidence, you’re not debating, you’re giving an opinion. We all do this when talking with family and friends, of course... but in a public online forum, you’re no longer bullshitting with your buds. No one has to buy your opinion just because you’re you.
<p>It’s not an imposition to ask for evidence. This is the Internet; you have access to your books and Google. Be prepared to back up your claims.
<p>Not all evidence is created equal, however.
<ul><li>If your evidence is your scriptures, they’re only valid with people who accept the authority of those scriptures.
<p>To be more precise: scripture may be sufficient reason for <i>you</i> to believe something; but if that’s your only backing, you have no hope of persuading outsiders. Find another way, or agree to disagree.
<p><li>You may feel you don’t have “scriptures”. But if your answer to objections is to cite manifestos and abstract declarations of principle that assume their conclusions— a common tactic of libertarians I’ve argued with— then these are effectively scriptures and fall under the same rule. Arguing across an ideological gulf, you can only progress by finding common ground.
<p><li>This is the Too Much Information Age. Especially in politics, every position has its own think tanks, magazines, websites, and network of blogs.
<p>If you’re arguing across an ideological divide, all these sources on your own side appear suspect to outsiders.
<p>(It’s actually a continuum, of course. If you’re on the left, <i>The New Yorker, </i>with its legendary fact checking, is a good source. <i>The Nation </i>or<i> The Daily Kos</i> is going to be more partisan. <i>The Crustinator’s Mad as Hell Rant Page </i>is highly suspect.)
<p>Often there’s a way around this: your fave political site may have got the information from another, more neutral source. Find it and cite that instead.
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<p><li>If you’re the one facing someone else’s partisan sources... <i>don’t</i> go by the label; read it and judge it on its merits. Sometimes good stories are missed by the mainstream media.
<p>Bad response: <i>“I don’t believe anything in that wingnut rag.”
<br></i>
<br>Good response: <i>“They have a good point about ——, but they don’t mention ———.”</i>
<p><li>Personal experience is highly respectable, but as academics say, “anecdotal”. If it happened to you, it happened; but it’s not proof of a general tendency.
<p>So if you got into a Ponzi scheme in Altoona, that’s excellent evidence that there are Ponzi schemes in Altoona; it could also be a good guide to questions like “How do Ponzi schemes work?” or “What resources does Altoona provide for victims of fraud?” But in itself, it doesn’t tell you how crime-ridden Altoona is, or make you an expert on the pigeon drop in Albuquerque, or demonstrate that all investment schemes should be prohibited.
<p><li>Many people, venturing outside their field, are convinced now and forever by the first book they read. It’s nice that they’ve read a book; but it’s not enough to argue with experts in that field who’ve read <i>many</i> books.
<p>An example: there was a guy who used to argue in sci.lang against the comparative method. He’d read <i>one</i> book on historical linguistics... a perfectly good book, but any impressions he formed from it just could not be corrected.
<p>Many people don’t know how to deal with multiple, conflicting sources— they have low tolerance for ambiguity and uncertainty. Sources conflict, introductory texts leave things out, opinions change. “It’s written here” is a good place to start but not conclusive. You need to be able to look at multiple sources, weigh their reliability (which may be different in different subfields), <a href="http://www.zompist.com/rants02.html#21">be aware of newer evidence</a>.
<p><li>Credentials aren’t evidence. I don’t really care that you’re Professor of Whatsit. If you know your subject, you also know the literature; cite it.
</ul>
<h2><a name="cranks">Cranks</a></h2>
For some reason, Usenet was full of cranks. These are people who gleefully go against the mainstream, whose alternative methods are entirely unfalsifiable, and rely in improbable leaps, personal dicta, or impenetrable obscurity.
<p>They can be lucid at times, or when off their pet idea; this can encourage you to get into long discussions with them. But they’ll never follow your demonstration of the weak points in their theory, and they have little time for this anyway— they want to go back to exposition, or to ranting against their opponents.
<p>(How do you diagnose crankery? The surest telltale is <b>unfalsifiability</b>. Cranks are often tireless researchers; but they only accumulate positive evidence. They cherry-pick mainstream sources for factoids that support their position and ignore everything else. The linguistic ones, armed with dictionaries, amass mountains of ‘evidence’. But they never contemplate a test that might reject their hypothesis. A skeptical professor I know has a simple test for people who want to argue with him: “What would it take to prove you wrong?” For a crank the answer is “Nothing could.”)
<p>Now, arguing with cranks can be fun, even useful— again, my <a href="chance.htm">chance resemblances paper</a> benefitted greatly from a few run-ins with them. And in some ways it’s a public service to expose their errors and explain mainstream science.
<p>But, don’t count on them ever changing their minds.
<h2><a name="ideo">Ideologues</a></h2>
That’s a cover term for anyone with an elaborate, often minority point of view: fundamentalists, militant atheists, extreme libertarians, Esperantists, wingnuts.
<p>Some of these folks are cranks, but many are not. They may have perfectly good reasons for their beliefs, and many are smart and well informed.
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So have fun arguing, but be aware that they’re not going to admit a point, however well argued, that would invalidate their ideology. A reasonable Esperantist might agree with many of your points and deplore the excesses on his own side, but he’s not going to cease to be an Esperantist.
<p>(Yes, people do change ideologies. But don’t count on it.)
<p>As I mentioned, I think is is possible to argue across an ideological gap; but only by finding common ground. If the gap is large enough, that can be a challenge. (The gap need not be political or religious. There are significant gaps between philosophy and linguistics, or between formal and cognitive linguistics.)
<p>Both sides should be patient with the process of identifying common ground. Talking with people who share our ideology, or our academic field, we know what we all agree on, what’s obvious, and what’s not. With outsiders we don’t. Don’t get upset if someone carefully explains something obvious— it wasn’t obvious that it <i>was</i> obvious. And if they go on and on based on something you don’t accept, maybe they didn’t realize that; point out the non-shared assumption and let them start over.
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