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<h3>Sidebars for people who just can�t get enough</h3>

<h4><br>Mockable movies</h4>

<font color="#008080"><b>DarthZomp</b>: hmm, could <I>batman</I> be movie night material?
</FONT><font color="#808080"><br>   <b>MisterQ</b>: I always thought it was funny of who played Harvey Dent in the first movie
</FONT><font color="#0000ff"><br>  <b>DethKlaw</b>: Heh.
</FONT><font color="#808080"><br><b>MisterQ</b>: Funny, Tommy Lee Jones didn't look anything like Billy Dee Williams.  Must have been the Chemicals.
</FONT><font color="#008080"><br> <b>DarthZomp</b>: even better, <I>star trek v</I>, <I>aka "don't ever let shatner direct again".
</I></FONT><font color="#ff00ff"><br>     <b>maime</b>: heh
</FONT><font color="#808080"><br>   <b>MisterQ</b>: What movie have we all seen a bazillion times and can make fun of in a split second?
</FONT><font color="#008080"><br> <b>DarthZomp</b>: <I>un chien andalou?
</I><br> <b>DarthZomp</b>: <I>beyond the valley of the ultra-vixens?
</I></FONT><FONT ><br>  <b>Da_SeanQ</b>: <I>Caddyshack?
</I><br>  <b>Da_SeanQ</b>: <I>Titanic</I>?
</FONT><font color="#008080"><br><b>DarthZomp</b>: <I>pee-wee herman goes to the theater</I>? 
</FONT><font color="#808080"><br>   <b>MisterQ</b>: what's <I>un chien andalou</I> about?
</FONT><font color="#008080"><br><b>DarthZomp</b>: q: i don't know if it's about anything, it's surrealism.
</FONT><font color="#808080"><br><b>MisterQ</b>: Gonna have to see it someday, then
</FONT><font color="#ff00ff"><br><b>maime</b>: I've only been to one movie where the audience stopped paying attention and started heckling the movie.
<br>     <b>maime</b>: It was <I>The people under the stairs
</I></FONT><FONT ><br>  <b>Trainman</b>: <I>Un Chien Andalou</I> is about getting freshman college film students to squirm in their seats.
</FONT><font color="#0000ff"><br>  <b>DethKlaw</b>: No, it's too short.
</FONT><font color="#ff00ff"><br>     <b>maime</b>: Any old 80's horror would be great.
</FONT><font color="#008080"><br> <b>DarthZomp</b>: o/~ the people under the stairs go up and down, up and down, up and down... o/~
</FONT><font color="#808080"><br><b>MisterQ</b>: The Keanes under the stairs 
</FONT><FONT ><br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;*** DarthZomp is now known as <b>zompist</b>:
</FONT><font color="#008080"><br>   <b>zompist</b>:: man, it feels good to get out of that damn costume.
</FONT><font color="#ff00ff"><br><b>maime</b>: what is the darth zomp costume?
</FONT><font color="#008080"><br><b>zompist</b>:: black leather, padding to give the illusion of a manly physique, and  a nice white tie.
</FONT><font color="#0000ff"><br>  <b>DethKlaw</b>: I was at an experimental Japanese film where people didn't heckle it, they ignored it.  I think that would be worse, to hear everyone spontaneously break into conversations about other things.
<br><b>DethKlaw</b>: It was a shot of people walking along a street, half of the people were real, the other half animated.
<br>  <b>DethKlaw</b>: Once you got over the initial "Oh, cool" the film became quite boring.
<br><b>DethKlaw</b>: It was 15 minutes of a three-minute film.
</FONT><font color="#808080"><br><b>MisterQ</b>: that film would have been cool if the animated people started fighting with the real people
</FONT><font color="#008080"><br>   <b>zompist</b>:: and ripping out their spines!  yeah!
</FONT><font color="#808080"><br>   <b>MisterQ</b>: And making the real people into animated people
</FONT><font color="#008080"><br>   <b>zompist</b>:: heh... did you ever see <I>cool world</I>?
<br><b>zompist</b>:: any movie that has to assure you in its title that it's cool is dead wrong.
</FONT><font color="#808080"><br>   <b>MisterQ</b>: (yes I saw <I>cool world</I>) The real people tried to resist with guns and stuff, but it was no match for anvils and sticks of dynamite
</FONT><font color="#ff00ff"><br><b>maime</b>: I had a friend obsessed with that movie.
<br>     <b>maime</b>: wandered around for weeks mumbling about cartoon chicks.
</FONT><font color="#808080"><br>   <b>MisterQ</b>: Its soundtrack was the best thing about it
</FONT><font color="#ff00ff"><br><b>maime</b>: It had "sex on wheels"
</FONT><font color="#808080"><br><b>MisterQ</b>: and what's wrong with cartoon chicks?
</FONT><font color="#ff00ff"><br>     <b>maime</b>: Nothing but i hate them.
</FONT><font color="#0000ff"><br>  <b>DethKlaw</b>: Even LadyJ?
</FONT><font color="#ff00ff"><br>     <b>maime</b>: never watched that cartoon.
</FONT><FONT ><br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;*** DethKlaw is now known as Wabewalkr
</FONT><font color="#808080"><br><b>MisterQ</b>: What have they ever done to you?
</FONT><font color="#ff00ff"><br>     <b>maime</b>: They have ruined it for me with guys who went around for weeks mumbling about cartoon chicks.
</FONT><font color="#0000ff"><br><b>Wabewalkr</b>: You don't want to date guys like that.
</FONT><font color="#ff00ff"><br>     <b>maime</b>: I know that now.
<br>     <b>maime</b>: But I still have the grudge for cartoon chicks.
</FONT><font color="#0000ff"><br> <b>Wabewalkr</b>: They expect all women to look like Dolly Parton in zero gravity.
</FONT><font color="#008080"><br>   <b>zompist</b>:: it's not good to be making love and know that the guy's comparing you to the</FONT><FONT > </FONT><font color="#008080">cartoon chicks he's had.
</FONT><font color="#808080"><br>   <b>MisterQ</b>: hehehe
</FONT><font color="#ff00ff"><br><b>maime</b>: Ummm If someone thinks he's <B>had </B>a cartoon chick he's got more problems than even I could ignore.
</FONT><font color="#008080"><br><b>zompist</b>:: [re Dolly Parton] jeez, that's a scary image.  prehensile breasts.
</FONT><font color="#0000ff"><br><b>Wabewalkr</b>: As bad as a prehensile vagina?
</FONT><font color="#808080"><br>   <b>MisterQ</b>: See <I>Species</I> and let's have no more talk on prehensile breasts
<br><b>MisterQ</b>: Well, I think it would be fun to play act and have the girl dress up like Daphne from Scooby Doo. 
</FONT><font color="#008080"><br>   <b>zompist</b>:: not thelma?
</FONT><font color="#808080"><br>   <b>MisterQ</b>: sure, why not
</FONT><font color="#0000ff"><br> <b>Wabewalkr</b>: There are three types of men in the world:  those that like Daphne, those that like Velma, and those that like Freddie.
</FONT><font color="#808080"><br>   <b>MisterQ</b>: 4: those that like Scooby
</FONT><font color="#ff00ff"><br>     <b>maime</b>: I'd probably be more the thelma type... after all I'd lose my glasses and be blind in the dark.
</FONT><font color="#0000ff"><br> <b>Wabewalkr</b>: And touch the foot of the monster?
</FONT><font color="#ff00ff"><br>     <b>maime</b>: Of course. I'm a monster magnet.
</FONT><font color="#ff0000"><br>  <b>Da_Raven</b>: That's almost poetry. :)
</FONT><font color="#808080"><br><b>MisterQ</b>: Now I have Monster Magnet's song stuck in my head.  Thanks a lot!
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<h4><a name="sw">Yet another conversation about Star Wars</a></h4>

<font color="#0000ff"><b>Wabewalkr</b>: This is frightening:  I'm starting to agree with Brin.
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</FONT><font color="#008080"><br>   <b>zompist</b>:: wabe, were you reading the <a href="http://www.salon1999.com/ent/movies/feature/1999/06/15/brin_main/index.html">brin review</a>?
</FONT><font color="#0000ff"><br><b>Wabewalkr</b>: Yeah.
</FONT><font color="#008080"><br>   <b>zompist</b>:: his minor points are better than his major point....
</FONT><font color="#0000ff"><br><b>Wabewalkr</b>: Yeah, I suppose.  But I do agree with the "Forgive Vader?!?" point
</FONT><font color="#008080"><br><b>zompist</b>:: re vader: yeah, that's true.
<br>   <b>zompist</b>:: it's just that a world with democratically apportioned heroes and magic is probably not a world that makes for good fantasy.
</FONT><font color="#0000ff"><br> <b>Wabewalkr</b>: I really found the movie... annoying.  It stopped at the back of the eyes.  None of the characters were worthwhile...
</FONT><font color="#008080"><br><b>zompist</b>:: i can see all the holes, but i enjoyed myself.
</FONT><font color="#0000ff"><br><b>Wabewalkr</b>: I toggle between the two.
<br> <b>Wabewalkr</b>: But I tend to lean towards the nobody-who-claws-his-way-to-the-top mentality.
</FONT><font color="#008080"><br>   <b>zompist</b>:: sorry, which side is that? :)
</FONT><font color="#0000ff"><br> <b>Wabewalkr</b>: <I>Star Trek
</I><br> <b>Wabewalkr</b>: Geeks == Heroes.
<br> <b>Wabewalkr</b>: Brains &gt;= Birth.
</FONT><font color="#008080"><br>   <b>zompist</b>:: actually, that bugged me about brin's review... i have a low <I>star trek</I> tolerance.
</FONT><font color="#808000"><br>    <b>Mr_Ben</b>: I have no <I>Star Trek </I>tolerance.
</FONT><font color="#008080"><br>   <b>zompist</b>:: maybe it's his way of talking about real sf to a non-sf audience.
</FONT><font color="#0000ff"><br> <b>Wabewalkr</b>: I have a low <I>Star Wars </I>tolerance, so we're balanced there.
<br> <b>Wabewalkr</b>: I prefer more science in my SF... so I lean towards Crighton.
</FONT><font color="#800080"><br>     <b>sol-D</b>: mmm...science fiction...
</FONT><font color="#008080"><br>   <b>zompist</b>:: ah, star wars hardly qualifies as science fiction.
</FONT><font color="#0000ff"><br> <b>Wabewalkr</b>: But then, I also like Dr. Who, so who am I to judge?  Dr. Who was born a noble, but left because he disagreed with their politics.
<br><b>Wabewalkr</b>: I also read Asprin, but in the same way I read trashy romance novels or eat chocolate-- with a guilty sense of pleasure.
</FONT><font color="#ff0000"><br>  <b>Da_Raven</b>: Heh.
</FONT><font color="#0000ff"><br><b>Wabewalkr</b>: Dr. Who's strongest point was a sense of scale-- he didn't always save the universe, sometimes he just saved a village.
</FONT><font color="#008080"><br><b>zompist</b>:: i think very little of my favorite sf would translate well to the screen.
<br><b>zompist</b>:: case in point: <I>the demolished man</I>.  not at all easy to film espers. :)
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